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Just want to know when measure getting process (20+ million data) that time Power BI report will fetch data or it will be down.
If Power BI reports will be down then can we implement BI logics using stored procedure in Entity Store.
did you try Power BI report by pulling 20+ million rows ? I think you should first try it. BYODB is another SQL azure DB in your control so you can write SP.
We are not going with BYOD because of Azure and Power BI Pro License cost.
I think entity store is nothing but BYOD in D365
Yes but there is no additional costing for the same. If we go to BYOD on Azure there will cost for Azure (Standard around minimum $100 per month and $5k for premium per month) and Power BI Pro license ($10 per user per month)
In Entity Store you have to write X++ / C# code to create SQL views but we are not able to create stored procedure and complex BI architecture.
Azure costing URL: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-in/pricing/details/sql-database/
Power BI Pro Costing: https://powerbi.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/
Entity Store and BYOD are two seperate things, here is a decent article:
"For starters, BYOD and entity store are two separate things. BYOD stands for Bring Your Own Database. While this could really mean any sort of database external to the D365FO database, it’s usually referenced in terms of data management. Entity store is something completely different. The entity store is a name for an internal, inaccessible data set within the D365FO product. For all intents and purposes, it’s part of D365FO and is treated the same way as the underlying transactional database – it’s there and behind the scenes, but an end user can’t see it, can’t query it, and can’t use it. The only way the entity store is used is for embedded Power BI reports."
"As of spring-2017 release, transaction entities built for the PowerBI content are available for export using BYOD as well."
I personally have some issues with this last claim, this is how they are *supposed* to behave, but at least in my experience, how they *actually* behave is that you are going to very quickly run into the error:
"<SomeEntity> is not supported for Change Tracking as it doesn’t have any primary index or alternate key."
As well, unless it's changed recently, deletes are not supported.
For some reason, Microsoft employees are unwilling to discuss this topic so I expect the shortcoming is well known internally.
EDIT: However, that blog post goes on to discuss yet another approach that I hadn't heard of until now:
"The entity store is completely different. It’s a transformed data set built on aggregate data measurements. These are created using views and perspectives that sort of mirror how the OLAP cubes in previous versions of AX worked. While this seems like a logical place to connect to for access to this optimized data, it’s 100% invisible to the outside world and not accessible by a D365FO user.
Now, to get around this, Microsoft showed a new set of solution templates you can download from AppSource (https://appsource.microsoft.com/en-us/.) I had the hardest time understanding what these were for, but I think I finally wrapped my head around it. If a BI developer or Power user needs access to this analytical data for a Power BI report that isn’t going to be embedded, there’s no real way to do that right now. These solution templates, though, basically extract the data from the entity store using an Azure Logic App and dump them into a standalone Azure SQL DB. This way, you’re basically replicating the entity store in a standalone Azure SQL DB that you can use for a source in your reports. If you have external datasets, you can also plug those into the Azure SQL DB that you’ve created and basically make a data warehouse. This all requires additional Azure consumption, though, so you’re going to have to pay a little extra for this new feature."
Now if this is true, and it actually works, I think this sounds like a good approach.
> Yes but there is no additional costing for the same. If we go to BYOD on Azure there will cost for Azure (Standard around minimum $100 per month and $5k for premium per month) and Power BI Pro license ($10 per user per month)
Are you sure your pricing is right? Both Standard and Premium are much cheaper than that. If you're doing PowerBI reporting on it and if you plan to use DirectQuery though, you're likely going to want to go Premium to use columnar indexes. However, if you look at the PremiumRS tier, you'll find it is much, much cheaper than Premium, about 1/4 the cost.
Deletes are supported as a part of PU 11 now
Ah this is great news I must have overlooked, thanks Sukrut!
I don't see anything different in the UI regarding deletes, did you read this somewhere?
I'm on: Platform release Update11 (7.0.4679.35176)
Bring your Own Database (BYOD) support for delete operations
Bring your own data store (BYOD) is a feature that’s used by customers to integrate data from Finance and Operations with existing data warehouses. BYOD allows you to incrementally export data into a customer’s SQL Azure database. While an incremental export feature is ideal for propagating changes, we will also support full export, which is typically used for initial data population. Incremental operation propagates insert and update operations to the destination database. With this addition, BYOD incremental refresh operations delete records in the destination database if corresponding records are deleted in source.
>>These solution templates, though, basically extract the data from the entity store using an Azure Logic App and dump them into a standalone Azure SQL DB.
Do you recall what these solution templates were called, or which vendor they're from? I'm not able to see anything related to "entity store" in my search on app source.
I'm also interested in the same App, as my case involves the need to export entity store to a Azure SQL DB.
You mentioned solution templates that Microsoft showed - do you recall their names?
Looks like its been more than a year since you posted this so I imagine there are new options for us to export our Entity Store, but I thought I'd ask while I'm here.
Hi Paul. Been talking to some industry folks. Really, the only way currently that "experts" know of, is to use data entities to get info to BYOD. Otherwise new data entities could be created that mimic the Entity Store tables.
As a result, I've created many data entities in VS for this purpose of BYOD. And you could determine the table relations in AOT to build up the data entity.
The D365 UI process is
1. publish schema and
2. export data to BYOD
...which really is SSIS behind the scenes. And for incremental refresh, need change tracking which works off the index / EntityKey.
Summary -- tried to reach out to vendors, but they drew a blank about Entity Store, etc...;
BYOD / Data Lake becomes the generic data warehouse!
We've been exporting data entities, too. I recently heard its possible to export from the entity store and I'm poking around trying to find out how anyone's done that. If I get new info I'll try to remember to post here
Thanks Paul -- let us know when you find out. Be good to know options, and likely that wouldn't be Microsoft-documented. Maybe a sql replication, and possible in a Tier2 environment?
entity store is now getting enabled for incremental loads in PU24+
entity store could be taken to Azure data lake as well, should check in PU24
entity store is populated out of aggregated entities while BYODW is based on data entities
You need a SWOT analysis based on business needs
It adds the data for the measurement to new tables and when it has all the data, then it switches the tables. After switching all the tables, it drops the old tables. This is done to minimize the time in which some tables have new data but others have not yet been updated.
Hope this helps.
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