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Employer only taxes

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It is becoming increasingly popular for states to have an employer only tax similar to the SUTA tax that needs to be calculated for each check. 

For example you have your Montana and Washington Administration Fund tax, ID workforce dev, your Idaho Workforce Dev Fund, and your Minnesota Workforce enhancement fee's.  I am sure there are more that I am missing.  I am just wanting to find out what the best way in Dynamic GP to track these.  Especially since it is something that you don't necessarily want to show on an employee payroll check. 

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  • Richard Wheeler Profile Picture
    Richard Wheeler 75,730 on at
    RE: Employer only taxes

    Our politicians are very good at creating unintended consequences. Our NYS governor loves spending other people's money and will do whatever it takes to keep the money flowing. This scheme has been tried before but never on such a large scale. I am sure there is a team of accountants scheming on how to make this work. If I were on the GP developer team I would get ready to start coding.

  • L Vail Profile Picture
    L Vail 65,271 on at
    RE: Employer only taxes

    Geeze,

    That just sounds replete with problems. Essentially, they are trying to turn $6,000 of non-deductible income tax to a tax levied on the employer. So who gets the $6,000? The SUTA folks? A newly created taxing authority? It gets even less likely to be effective if there is some 'agreement' of a salary reduction.

    A whole new set of laws would need to be written (and/or changed), both at the Federal level and the State level.

    Of course, that's not our job to guess how it would turn out in the tax court, but I think setting their salary at $100,000 and then setting up a fixed 'before tax' deduction of $6,000, or an equivalent percentage, would fail the SALT tax rules. Seems like the salary in Box 1 of the W-2 would need to be $94,000 because it is box 1 that goes at the top of the Form 1040. If you put $100,000 in box 1, which section of the Internal Revenue Code could be used in order to take a $6,000 pre-tax deduction? Section 61 of the Code says everything is income unless some other section says it is not.

    I love the idea though. It's always intriguing to me to see how organizations try to subvert the spirit (if not the letter) of the law.

    Kind of like Texas, other states could convert some of the income tax to a property tax because you can still deduct up to 10K of property tax.

    That doesn't work well for me because I live in an 1,810 square foot house in Dallas on a 50 by 138 ft. lot and my property tax is already just over $10,000 per year. Hey, but we don't have a state income tax! LOL

    I tell people I don't own my house; I just rent it from the school district and a plethora of other taxing authorities.  My oh my.

    Kind regards,

    Leslie                                                                                                                                                            

  • Richard Wheeler Profile Picture
    Richard Wheeler 75,730 on at
    RE: Employer only taxes

    All the high tax states are trying to implement this so they get their money and the employees get their deduction. It is called payroll tax because the employer pays the tax not the employee. So if an employee gets paid $100,000 per year and the tax rate is 6%, then the employer and employee agree to a reduction of annual pay of $94,000 and the employer pays the IRS the $6,000. I am wondering if setting up a fixed deduction of $6,000 exempt from taxes would do the trick. This would only the employer to keep track of the deduction per employee. I will need to test this to see how the W-2  would look.

  • NelsonC Profile Picture
    NelsonC 280 on at
    RE: Employer only taxes

    Also I have heard that you can use the benefits to track this, but the Idaho tax is .01275%, and a Benefit only allows 2 decimal places.  So not sure how to handle that if you use a benefit.

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