Cost Saving Help for Upgrading

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We currently have GP10 with 30 Users accessing around 9 different company files.  In conjunction with a CRM Upgrade (Goldmine to CRM2013) we want to move to GP2013.

As best as possible I put together a request for pricing based on lots of reading and discussions with people.  Because we have a lot of sub systems that feed our GP (historically bad design planning) we are going to need to take our time upgrading.  What I would like to do is install a clean system GP2013 and then develop/test replacement sub-systems.  GLD would be July 2015 for financial year start.  We would run the existing GP10 in Live at the same time.

The quotes I am getting back are all for a new purchase of GP2013, Starter Pack and Customisation Pack.  It isn't a huge initial cost but was wondering how the Transition model works given we are moving GP10 to GP2013.  As with most things I have to specifically ask the question of the various partners, no-one has volunteered any cost-saving ideas.

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  • Perhaps if you have been non current with your Enhancement contract for a long time - purchasing new might be cheaper than back paying enhancement? But if you are on GP10...then I doubt this is the case, unless you are reducing user count significantly or something.

    What are you using to integrate into GP? eConnect?

    Ian Stewart MVP - International support for Dynamics GP. Local knowledge, local timelines, local GP talent. Genesys Financial Systems (Europe) Microsoft Gold Certified Partner http://dynamicsgp.wordpress.com/

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  • Hi - are you still current with your Enhancement Programme?

    If you want - drop me a PM and we can take this off line. I should be able to provide you with a reality check / advise if the quotes you are getting are realistic.

    Ian.

    Ian Stewart MVP - International support for Dynamics GP. Local knowledge, local timelines, local GP talent. Genesys Financial Systems (Europe) Microsoft Gold Certified Partner http://dynamicsgp.wordpress.com/

  • I would take Ian up on his offer. He is one of the best! As far as what you wrote here the Starter Pack will get you three users so you have to purchase another 27 users. The customization pack will include things like Integration Manager, Dynamics Modifier and other developer tools. So you must have integrations or modified forms with which to be concerned. If you are on GP 10 SP5 you will be able to go directly to GP 2013. As I am sure you are aware, GP 10 is no longer supported so the sooner you upgrade the better.

    Richard E. Wheeler 2013 and 2014 MVP

    Member Microsoft Academic Alliance

    www.rbsolutions.com Revered Business Solutions Ballston Lake, NY  518-877-0763 x10

  • There is almost no scenario I can think of that would require you to repurchase the GP license if you already own it. Even if you have not been current on enhancement for a long time, there is typically a way to get current without having to start from scratch. There may also be some benefits in the future for being a long time customer as opposed to starting from scratch. Take Ian up on his offer and talk to him about this.

    The above is just talking about licensing costs. as far as running 2 GP systems concurrently - you can still keep running your GP 10.0 live system, while at the same time install GP 2013 for testing/development purposes on a separate server - the GP licensing allows for this.

    However, if you transition your existing license to GP 2013, you only have 6 months of use for your current license (GP 10.0). After 6 months, you will not be able to purchase additional licenses or modules for GP 10.0. If some reason you are not able to go to GP 2013 as planned, you're kind of stuck, there is no going back once you've converted your licensing to GP 2013. So this may be the reason why you were quoted a separate GP 2013 license? If it makes more sense to do this, you should be able to merge the two licenses after you have completed the final upgrade to GP 2013.

    Also, GP 10.0 is still supported - extended support expires in 2017. There are more details and links for explanations of what extended support means here: victoriayudin.com/.../when-does-my-gp-products-support-end.

  • Perhaps if you have been non current with your Enhancement contract for a long time - purchasing new might be cheaper than back paying enhancement? But if you are on GP10...then I doubt this is the case, unless you are reducing user count significantly or something.

    What are you using to integrate into GP? eConnect?

    Ian Stewart MVP - International support for Dynamics GP. Local knowledge, local timelines, local GP talent. Genesys Financial Systems (Europe) Microsoft Gold Certified Partner http://dynamicsgp.wordpress.com/

  • Thanks all.  I thought I had been detailed enough in explaining our current situation and future situation to the partners I looked at.   If you don't mind I will take this offline to get a sanity check as I am going a little nutty (especially after calling Microsoft to try and talk it through - that was far to hard and got me no where.)

  • Just to answer a couple of questions here as well:

    Current on our BREP with 240 days till expiry.

    Using EConnect to process around 3500 invoices per day.

    Staying at 31 or growing as I have two more companies I wan't to bring online.

    Customiser - we are aiming to integrate alot of the satellite systems into GP - most are just extracting data, doing something to it and creating batch files to re-import.