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How have you handled tracking the activity before an opportunity is created?

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My manager wants to know what the sales guys are doing before an opportunity is created. 

Here is the scenario:

  • We have a full database of contacts we have been doing business with for years. So they are already past the Lead stage. 
  • Many phone calls, emails etc will be made a day to these contacts to find out if they want to buy anything from us. These are not exactly following up on opportunities but they are hopefully going to get some. 
  • All these calls relate to certain products the the sales guys are trying to sell but they might literally just be ringing up to say, "Hey do you need anything new from this line of products?"
  • If we are the distributor for a certain company's products the manager wants to be able to say they them how much activity we have done to try and sell their products. 

I thought every phone call, email etc is basically relating to an opportunity in some way, it's just "Cold" or 0% until something concrete (like the prospect of funding) comes out of it which will warm it up. The products can all be tracked via the opportunity. 

He doesn't want to use Opportunity until something more concrete is expected. 

Here's my problem. 

Do I have to create another entity called Prospect Products that can be created at the start of the sales process that can contain a list of products? This will then be escalated to an Opportunity when it becomes warm enough? It seems like a lot of duplication to me. 

How to others deal with tracking activities before they've actually become an opportunity?

I would have thought if the sales guys are just ringing up to see if the customer is interested in anything then it really isn't related to anything yet. Until they know there is something to sell them it's just contact with that customer, when there is something to sell to them it's an opportunity.

 

 

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  • Jeremy Winchell Profile Picture
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    Matt,

    Activities are not limited to always being tied to an Opportunity.  All of the calls that the sales team is making in order to generate an Opportunity down the road can just as easily be tracked against the Contact and/or Account record.

    What we have done in the past is setup a picklist or lookup on the activities to indicate the type of activity.  That allows our customers to pull a report of activities tracked as "Business Development" or "xyz category".  Then if the rep is on the phone and the call generates an Opportunity that activity can then be promoted to an Opportunity and future activities tracked at that point.

    Let me know if you have additional questoins,

    Jeremy Winchell

    Avtex

  • Matt Johnson Profile Picture
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    The key point here is that he wants to track one or many of the products along with every activity. Obviously he doesn't want to have to add these each time a new activity is added so it would be set up and the the activities would follow it along. I have convinced him that if he REALLY wants to do this then he is just going to have to use a cold opportunity other wise we will just be duplicating work in setting up another entity just to contain a list of products that are being talked about before an "warmer" opportunity comes to fruition.

    To be honest I can see the Salesmen not starting up an opportunity for the first few initial contacts anyway so they will just be stored against the actual contact. This is fine as long as the bulk of the sales process is tracked along with an opportunity it'll all work out ok.

    Thanks for your response anyway.

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