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Entering Credit Card Pymts to Vendors

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Our company uses AmEx to pay several of our vendors.  It is also used for business dinners, travel, etc.  I have no problems when entering a manual payment to apply to invoices already in the system, but when I have an invoice I enter from the charge that was made and I see it when the statement comes, I am not getting a posting to both sides..AP & GL. 

Example:  Business dinner for $100.  I enter the invoice, then when I get to the bottome of the template, I enter the $100 paid by Credit Card and choose American Express (already set up in the system).  This action will immediately pay the invoice I'm entering so they both go into history, but it also sends an open invoice into the AmEx vendor to wait for my entry of payment to the AmEx account. 

Here's the problem...when I enter the payment as cc, the account code for cash changes from our bank code to the payables account code.  Cash posts to GL, NOT to AP so when I reconcile, I have entries showing in the GL that have no match on the AP side causing my AP Aging to be off from my GL and I don't tie. 

 Here's the question...does anyone know how to fix the entries I've already entered that are keeping me from tying?  And, how should I enter the credit card payments so we can have separate vendors for tracking and still get them into the AmEx vendor file without having to make four entries?

 Any help will be VERY appreciated.  We're on a calendar month so tomorrow is the last day.  I have to have this cleaned up before I begin August month end.

 Thank you,

Kim

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  • Community Member Profile Picture
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    Re: Re: Entering Credit Card Pymts to Vendors

    Thank you Victoria for your reply. I do follow your blog, but I hadn't come across this link and so I think it will be very helpful. Regarding the voided invoices, I spoke with the individual who entered these transactions and he showed me exactly what he did and assured me that he did not void any of the transactions, at least not deliberately.

    Something strange is indeed happening as when we go to make a payment to pay off the credit card balance, the invoices that we used the credit card to pay, are there and are being calculated in the total balance owed on the credit card. Our IT folks are looking at this as well but are not sure what is going on either.

    I will go through your blog post to see if I can identify anything in there that we missed or did incorrectly that is resulting in these invoices being voided out when we apply a credit card payment.

    Thanks again,

    Sam

  • Victoria Yudin Profile Picture
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    Re: Re: Entering Credit Card Pymts to Vendors

    Hi Samuel,

    Entering a credit card payment for an open invoice in GP will not void it.  I suspect that someone was not quite sure how to deal with credit cards and credit card payments and may have thought they needed to void transactions.  If that is the case, you really need to take a look at all the different components of these transactions to determine best way to fix this, as the fix will depend on exactly what has been done.  

    I have a blog post describing the process of using credit cards to pay vendors in GP with details and screenshots that may help: victoriayudin.com/.../using-credit-cards-to-pay-vendors-in-dynamics-gp.

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    Re: Re: Entering Credit Card Pymts to Vendors

    I came across this post when looking for something to help us with an issue we're having with Credit Card Payments.

    We enter vendor bills in the same way as described with a debit to the expense and a credit to the payable (account # 20000.00) using the Purchasing Transaction Window. Then when we pay the invoice using a credit card we go to Manual Payment and perform the same steps outlined above in Richard's post where we select credit card payment, choose the credit card and apply the amount to the open invoice.

    The payables account used for the credit card is the same as the account number as for the vendor (i.e. 20000.00). So basically the distribution for the payment to the vendor using the credit card is a debit and credit to the same payables account number (which shouldn't be an issue from what I gathered from above). My understanding is that although the same account number is used, GP understands that the debt is now owed to the Credit Card company and not the Vendor.

    However, instead of marking the invoice as paid, GP is actually voiding the vendor invoice once the payment is posted. When we look at the transaction history, and open the invoice it is marked VOID and there is a voided transaction entry which Debits the payable and credits the expense. It as if we went in and instead of paying the invoice we selected the option to Void it, which is not the intended result.

    So I have 2 questions:

    1) How do we fix this problem so that when we pay invoices with a credit card it does not Void the invoice to which payment is supposed to be applied

    2) How do we go back and fix these transactions that were voided so that the expense is being properly recorded.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.

  • Kimber Ziemke Profile Picture
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    Re: Re: Entering Credit Card Pymts to Vendors

    Richard...I will need to take a few minutes to read through your response, but I will read through it closely.  I've been trying to remedy this for four months and it's exhausting.  I will let you know.  Thank you.

  • Kimber Ziemke Profile Picture
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    Re: Re: Entering Credit Card Pymts to Vendors

    Thank you for your suggestion.  I did try it in the test company and it does force the entry to AP, but it enters it as a credit for the invoice, then a debit for the cc pymt AND it still changes the Cash account to payables.  So basically it hits the GL as a debit once and a credit twice which takes me right back where I started.  But it was worth the try.  Thanks, again.

  • Richard Whaley Profile Picture
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    Re: Entering Credit Card Pymts to Vendors

    I'm not sure how to clear out the postings you already have to tie, but here is the proper way to handle credit card payments....taken directly from our Confessions of a Dynamics GP Consultant.

    Credit or bank debit cards can be used in a variety of manners to pay vendors. Advance deposits, travel expenses, and payments to trade vendors can all be made using credit or bank debit cards.

     

    Let's first look at the accounting side of this process and then review the transaction entry sequence.

     

    When a standard vendor invoice is posted to Accounts Payable, the individual expense accounts for the items purchased are debited along with any freight, miscellaneous, and tax accounts. An offsetting credit is posted to the accounts payable account associated with the vendor.

     

    When a cash (or check) payment is made to the vendor, the vendor's accounts payable account is debited for the amount of the payment with an offsetting credit to the appropriate cash account.

     

    Credit card payments are only slightly different.

     

    The vendor's invoice is vouchered and posted in exactly the same manner, just as if a cash payment would be used to pay off the bill. And, when a credit card is used to pay the bill, the vendor's accounts payable account is debited. The offsetting credit, however, is made to the accounts payable account associated with the credit card vendor. At this point, no further debt is owed to the original vendor but a debt is now owed to the credit card vendor.

     

    Finally, when the credit card bill is paid, cash is credited and the credit card vendor's accounts payable account is debited.

     

    The two different transaction sets are shown to the right. The first two transactions represent the vouchering of a purchase from a vendor and the payment of that vendor with cash or check. The next three transactions represent the vouchering of a vendor's invoice and the use of a credit card to pay off that invoice. This is then followed by a payment to the credit card vendor from the cash account.

     

    Notice in these two transaction sets that the vouchering to the original vendor are identical. The purchases are all debited based on the posting of the vendor's invoice. From that point, the payment method is the difference, with the first set paid directly by cash and the second set first paid by transferring the debt to the credit card and then a payment to the credit card vendor.

     

    So let's look at how some real world transactions are handled.

     

     

    Setting Up Credit/Bank Cards

     

    When credit/bank cards are setup in Dynamics GP, a vendor is associated with each card. This vendor is the bank or credit card agency issuing the card and to whom the ultimate payments are sent.

     

    These vendors will need an Accounts Payable account just like any other vendor. The same trade payables account can be used. However, a separate credit cards payable account is frequently seen.

     

     

    Paying Vendors With Credit Cards

     

    Paying a vendor with a credit card transfers the debt from the vendor's account to the credit card account. Similar to a cash or check payment, the credit card is used to pay invoices vouchered to the vendor's account. Since each vendor invoice has already been expensed to the various accounts for the products purchased, only a transfer of the payable amount from trade payables to credit card payables is made.

     

    Vendor accounts are paid via credit cards using the Payables Manual Payment Entry screen (Transactions->Payables->Manual Payment). This screen provides for the payment of selected vendor invoices using a manual check, direct cash payment, or a credit card.

     

    When a payment is entered in the Payables Manual Payment Entry screen, the credit card to be used to make the payment is selected. The open vendor invoices to be paid are selected using the Apply button exactly as if a manual check or cash was being used. When the transaction is posted, the vendor invoices are marked paid in the amounts applied and the debt is transferred to the credit card.

     

    Later, when the credit card statement arrives, a charge will be seen on that statement matching the payment made. Examining the account of the vendor associated with the credit card, a matching charge will be found. Reconciling the credit card statement is a matter of matching the entries on the credit card statement with the list of open payables in the credit card vendor's account. It is not necessary to chase down the account of each vendor where purchases were made since the "payment" of those accounts with the credit card has transferred the debt to the credit card vendor's account.

     

     

    Travel Expenses

     

    Most travel expenses involve an employee using a company credit card while on a business trip. Expenses such as air fare, hotel, rental cars, and meals are charged to the company card. At some point, the employee turns in (hopefully) the receipts.

     

    In most cases, firms will post these transactions directly to the credit card vendor and distribute the expenses to the appropriate accounts. It is not necessary to create separate vendors for each hotel, airline, et cetera. The only reason to create individual vendors would be the case of direct bill services. But then again, if the hotel is billing the company directly, the charges would not appear on the credit card statement.

     

     

    Reconciling the Credit Card Account

     

    When the credit card bill arrives, each of the items listed on the statement should match an open payable entry for the credit card vendor. Look for any service fees or interest charges and enter and post a payables voucher for those charges.

     

    Once the statement matches the Vendor's Aged Trial Balance, the open items can be selected for payment and a check cut to the credit card vendor.

     

    Its a bit long but I hope that helps.  The rest of the book is available from our web site.  I(This little trick was written by Leslie Vail!)

     

     

     

     

  • Heather Roggeveen Profile Picture
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    Re: Entering Credit Card Pymts to Vendors

    Hi Kim

    I assume you are using the reconcile tool that came with Version 10 onwards.  If so, this is a known area where the tool won't work correctly.

    There is however a setting in the Company Setup options to "Separate Payment Distributions".  If you select this setting, it will force an entry to Accounts Payable when you pay a document off.

    I have not used this myself, but it may be worth you trying it out in a test company to see if it gives you the desired result.  Otherwise, I don't know of any other options.

    Cheers

    Heather

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