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VAT Purchase & Sales Issue

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Evening,

We have a group of specific items which we buy in from the EU (to NI, so no VAT is charged), however, when we sell these items we will obviously be charging 20%

The only option I see we have at the moment is that the item has no VAT for both purchasing and sales, or 20% for both.

Is there a way I can specify purchasing at no VAT (or reverse charge) and sales at 20% ?

Thanks,

Gareth

  • JAngle Profile Picture
    159 on at

    Use different VAT business posting groups. That will dictate what rate the item takes

  • GarethRGL Profile Picture
    79 on at

    Appreciate the reply Josh.

    However, there doesn't appear to be an option for different VAT posting groups, just one on each item.

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    JAngle Profile Picture
    159 on at

    My suggestion is not item related. “Business” posting groups are for the business you trade with. So the vendor you buy from can have a different VAT business posting group to the customer you sell to. Rates or VAT type is then mapped out by the VAT posting setup. This means the item can have 1 VAT product posting group, but use different VAT depending on the transaction/document

  • GarethRGL Profile Picture
    79 on at

    Ah - well this had been done already but doesn't appear to work.

    The vendor is set as EU - however when creating a purchase invoice it still automatically adds 20% vat to the end price.

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    JAngle Profile Picture
    159 on at

    Verify the VAT posting setup page. This explains the overall workings well: usedynamics.com/.../

    Try it in a Cronus database where it is setup correctly

  • GarethRGL Profile Picture
    79 on at

    That's where it is being tested.

    Vendor is set to EU.

    Item is set to Domestic and Standard.

    Adds 20% to both sales and purchasing invoices.

  • JAngle Profile Picture
    159 on at

    With reverse charge as the calculation type. That’s what the setup says to do

  • GarethRGL Profile Picture
    79 on at

    Definitely not working.

    VAT Bus Posting Group - EU

    VAT Prod Posting Group - RCSL (0% VAT and Calculation as Reverse Charge)

    Vendor is set to EU

    Item is set to Domestic - Standard

    It seems to default to Domestic Standard even when creating an invoice from the vendor.

    Adds 20% every time.

    Am I missing something ?

    How would business central know to use the RCSL posting group instead of just using the items posting group ?

  • GarethRGL Profile Picture
    79 on at

    No matter what we try and do, it's either 20% (UK), 23% (IE) or 0% (Reverse Charge) on both sales invoice and purchase invoice, there doesn't seem to be a way to keep the purchase at 0 with reverse charge and the sales at 20...

    So confused at this...

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    Dirk Profile Picture
    Microsoft Employee on at

    Hi

    The item itself cannot/should not be set up to always result in 20% or 0%.

    Just use a VAT Product Posting Group which you would in your country, like "normal" and "reduced".

    And then use VAT Business Posting Groups for cusotmers and vendors like EXPORT, EU, NATIONAL and assign to the cusotmers and vendors accordingly.

    The VAT percentage for the transaction is the result of the combination of these both groups

    You can have the item set up with VAT Prod Posting Group - NORMAL  (or RSCL as you mentioned that code)

    And you can have the EU vendor set up with VAT Bus Posting Group - EU

    In the VAT Posting Setup for   EU / NORMAL you can have  20% Purchase VAT (with the VAT Calculation Type = Reverse Charge VAT)

    This would indeed trigger 20% Purchase VAT, but also 20% Reverse Charge VAT. these two VAT Amounts equal each other out

    This should be good for the EU purchase, right?

    If you would buy the same item from a EXPORT vendor you can EXPORT / NORMAL with 0% VAT  (VAT Calculation Type = Normal VAT)

    and then you sell the same item to the customer and you can have the DOMESTIC customer set up with VAT Bus Posting Group - NATIONAL

    In the VAT Posting Setup for   NATIONAL / RSCL you can have  20% Sales VAT

    This should be good for the sales, right?

    Consequently, if you then sell the item to an EU customer ... it would have 0% VAT (because the VAT calculation type = Reverse Charge VTA always results in 0% Sales VAT)

    or ... if you would buy the item from a NATIONAL vendor ... it would have 20% Purchase VAT

    It is all about the combination in the VAT Posting Setup.

    If you need further assistance with this setup please reach out to your partner or log a service request with Microsoft.

    Thanks

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