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Wrong subtotal on Posted Sales Invoice when a Deposit had been applied

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Hi,
 
I'm surprise to notice that the Subtotal on the Posted Sales Invoice of BC is wrong when BC applied a deposit on the invoice. Instead of giving as a subtotal the total of stock invoiced, BC deducted the Deposit on this amount. The taxes is calculated on the right amount (without the Deposit). Our consultants of BC, did a personalization for the form as we can't give an invoice with a wrong subtotal on it but all statistics, reports of BC and the screen for the invoice is wrong. The amount transfer to the general ledger is right but how can you work with a system that don't give you the right subtotal? Do somebody is aware of a forum for this major problem? I talked with Microsoft but they don't seem to see the problem as a big problem. I thought this kind of software should meet a minimum of accounting rules or business rules, like having a right sub-total but it looks like not...
 
thanks for any help!
 
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  • Sonia Turcot Profile Picture
    Sonia Turcot 35 on at
    Wrong subtotal on Posted Sales Invoice when a Deposit had been applied
    Thank you for your responses and comments. As you can see, I'm new to the forum and I understand that I must clarify my post, which I will try to do.
    So, I'm starting my question from scratch.
     
    I use Microsoft Dynamics Business Central on the cloud
    This Version :

    I wonder why customers who use Microsoft Dynamics Business Central (BC in the rest of the text) accept Microsoft's way of handling customer deposits and deposits paid to suppliers.
    On an invoice, usually, there is a detail section which specifies the list of items sold (quantity, sales price, etc.) and there is a total section in which we find: the total of items sold, the taxes and the total invoice including taxes. Then, we specify what has been paid and/or what remains to be paid. We agree to say that the sale will be the total of items sold before taxes.
    I realize that with BC, this is not the case when using Prepayment Invoice. BC applies Deposit paid (and deducted it) from the Sales Invoice.

    I will explain the steps we follow with BC for a normal transaction.
    1. First we enter a Sales Order for the customer.
      1. In my example, this is an item that will be sold for $2,025 plus taxes = 2,328.25$.
    2. We will issue a Prepayment invoice which is equivalent to 50% of the total including taxes of the Sales Order, i.e. 1,164.13$.
    3. We will enter a Cash Receipt to pay this Prepayment Invoice.
    4. When the customer comes to pick up their merchandise, we must issue an invoice for the item sold for $2,025 + taxes, i.e. $2,328.25. On the invoice, the deposit already paid by the customer of $1,164.13 should reduce the total payable of the invoice.
    5. Customer will pick-up the stock, the invoice and will pay the balance of it  i.e. 1,164.12$
    Step 1 : The Sales Order. : All good.

    Step 2 : Prepayment Invoice : All good.

    F7 for “Sales” Invoice Statistics

    Step 3  Cash receipt : all good.

    Step 4 : not good. The amount of the Sales aren’t right because he deducted the Deposit (Prepayment invoice paid at Step3!)


    F7 for Sales Invoice Statistics

     
    Firstly there is the problem of having a good subtotal of the merchandise sold on the invoice. We had to modify our invoice form so that BC did not include the lines with general ledger account #21210 for customer deposits.
    Already, I'm wondering why I would have to pay to have a good subtotal on a sales invoice as BC should give me a right amount on the invoice.

    My concern grows when I realize that the Posted Sales Invoices screen does not show the correct subtotal. So, if I want to export this data into Excel to do some checking or other analysis, the column Amount and Amount including tax are not right because of the Deposit deducted from it.


    If I look at the report Customer Sales Statistics, well all numbers of Sales are wrong because BC takes the Deposit as a Sale (in minus) but it’s not a Sale….


    And so on for other screens or reports. Still the same problem, the deposit should not reduce the amount of the invoice but should reduce the amount remaining to be paid on the invoice only...
     
    Thank for your help in advance or comments
     
  • KasparsSemjonovs Profile Picture
    KasparsSemjonovs 3,660 Super User 2024 Season 2 on at
    Wrong subtotal on Posted Sales Invoice when a Deposit had been applied
    Yeah,  a picture would help. 
    Not sure what You mean by deposit applied... is it a separate line on the Sales Invoice (like when selling bottles of drinks in some countries)? or do You mean Deposit as a previously paid prepayment amount was applied to the invoice?

    Also would be helpful to know if You use a localization of any country or other add-on ? 
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    Inge M. Bruvik Profile Picture
    Inge M. Bruvik 32,744 Moderator on at
    Wrong subtotal on Posted Sales Invoice when a Deposit had been applied
    When you say that the screen of the invoice is wrong. Are you then refering to the outstanding amount that the customer is expected to pay?
     
    Maybe you can add some screenshots so it will be easier to understand how you think this should work?
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    Judy Profile Picture
    Judy Microsoft Employee on at
    Wrong subtotal on Posted Sales Invoice when a Deposit had been applied
    Hi Sonia,
     
    Based on your description, The issue is regarding Business central, in order to help you receive more professional and efficient support. I will help to move the case to the Business central forum.
    By the way, have you tried to correct a posted sales invoice since you mentioned the subtotal is not correct. You can follow the steps described in MS document:
     
     
    Best Regards
  • André Arnaud de Calavon Profile Picture
    André Arnaud de Cal... 290,246 Super User 2024 Season 2 on at
    Wrong subtotal on Posted Sales Invoice when a Deposit had been applied
    Hi Sonia,
     
    Can you confirm if you are using Dynamics 365 Business Central as you mentioned several times "BC"? If so, you posted the question in the wrong forum. If that is the case, we can move the question to the correct forum for you.

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