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Generate planned orders for only productoin orderr. MTO

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Hi,

I work as a raw material planner.

We have forecast for end articles that are broken down to blends and then into needs (planned orders) of raw material.

Sometimes there is a forecast that breaks through to planned orders to my raws but since the end artilce is a MTO article and the shelf life of the raw mateiral is short I cannot order towards the forecast.

Is there a way to make the raw material only create planned order when there is a production order for the blend (where the raw material is linked to)?

My first thought was either in the master or in the coverage group the raw material is connected but i do not know exactly.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

Thomas

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  • guk1964 Profile Picture
    guk1964 10,877 on at
    RE: Generate planned orders for only productoin orderr. MTO

    Basically you want to buy components to inventory and then make to order

    One option is to  ignore the planned production orders i.e. to assign these into a different buyer and planner codes.  If your mrp policy is lot for lot i.e. production order to sales order, and the lead  time for manufacture is for example only 1 day and there is no forecast of the end item,  then mrp should not plan the production orders any earlier. It will however plan early enough to drive your raw material purchases but you can filter out those planned orders.

    Make to order sub bom components will be planned by the pegged supply functionality to generate the sub productions when the top level production order is released - those productions are  linked and will reschedule with the parent production.  

     When you set up a plan there's a checkbox whether to include the forecast.  One plan (for production planning) will work without forecasts i,e, only firm customer orders - this is the plan against which you will release production orders. The  plan to drive purchasing would include the forecast and will generate more planned production orders - but you will not look at, nor  release any production orders from this plan.  A separate master plan for purchasing that includes forecasts should work for you as long as you don't need to build any of the common components to forecast. 
    In both cases set up forecast consumption setup  -probably so that the sales orders consume  the forecast. (note that as well as  % and PO/SO reduction keys,  Ax now also offersL Transaction reduction key, and Transaction dynamics period (in which the forecast records themselves define the period (prototype to see which works best for you.

  • Weaveriski Profile Picture
    Weaveriski 23,616 on at
    RE: Generate planned orders for only productoin orderr. MTO

    It will be plan by exception on this item. Only look where the order date is today because you are hitting your short lead time, then look at the demand. 

    There is nothing in the coverage group to only generate if it is a production order and not a forecast when you have a forecast in. You could choose not to include forecasts, but then this impacts elsewhere!

  • Community Member Profile Picture
    Community Member Microsoft Employee on at
    RE: Generate planned orders for only productoin orderr. MTO

    Hi,

    I think that is a delicate question. If you ask me we should only arrange this article as with no forecast and only based on direct orders. Unfortunately this is not the deal we have with the customer and some raw mateirals has a long leadtime (but rolling consumption) so we have to get that volume in. Therefore We have a forecast for the end article.

    Once the order pops in from the customer a production order is created.

    What is bad is that the mateiral Im refering to has a short leadtime but also a very short shelf life. So if I buy to the forecast in the system I will have goods with short shelflife. And since this order has a pretty irratic demand I oftenly buy too much after the forecast and then a small order pops in. Lots of scrap.

    An option os to can add a filter, -yes but I prefer to have a correct setup from the beginning instead of deviations. It will be tricky to not fall into that whole again of buying if I have a backup or simply forget about the filter one day.

    Do you know if there is anything in the coverage groups that can refer to only generate planned orders if there is a production order and not a forecasted prod order.

    Thanks for helping.

  • Weaveriski Profile Picture
    Weaveriski 23,616 on at
    RE: Generate planned orders for only productoin orderr. MTO

    There is no MTO setting in reality, the question would be why do you have forecasts for something that is MTO?  You could have coverage groups that look at shorter forecast windows, but if your plan looks at forecast and you have a forecast it will tell you to make it :-)

  • Community Member Profile Picture
    Community Member Microsoft Employee on at
    RE: Generate planned orders for only productoin orderr. MTO

    Hi,

     

    Most likely the consumer material is not setup as a MTO (how can you change that?) article therefore I gett planned orders down to my raw material just for the forecast that is in the system. 

     

    It is irritating to get the proposals and having to look at them, filter out, possible forget so I need a setup that actually just gives me planned orders for the raw materials when there is a real customer order to the customer material.

     

     

     

     

  • Weaveriski Profile Picture
    Weaveriski 23,616 on at
    RE: Generate planned orders for only productoin orderr. MTO

    You need to flip that question, why does the raw material break through as a planned order when if it is not connected to an MTO article? Ultimately if you need it you need it. You can ignore it, filter on the order date for example which is when you place the order, if it is short lead time and needed in 2 weeks the lead time of the item would have an order date close to the requirement date, not today.

    You cannot do what you want if I understand you correctly, but you need to understand why you are being told to order it and then react accordingly.

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