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Account Segments and Chart of Accounts

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I'm creating a chart of accounts for three different stores that are operated under the same Tax ID #. So I'm guessing I need to create segments for each store and a chart of accounts for each segment. The P&L accounts for each store will be identical but just need to be able to separate out each store. I also need to be able to report them on a combined P&L as well as a P&L for each individual store. There will only be one combined Balance Sheet.

So my question is, how do I create the segments? Each account will be 4 numbers long. Each store identifier is also 4 numbers long. Do I need a 4th "main" segment for balance sheet accounts? And after segments are created how will I then create the chart of accounts. I've never done this before and want to make sure I do it right before I get going!

Thank you!

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    JodeRuiter Profile Picture
    982 User Group Leader on at

    Hi Kelsey:

    Generally you would use a segment for the companies, then one for any "departments" (if needed) and then one for Main or Natural accounts.  The Natural accounts - the main accounts - are not segregated by "Posting Type" so P & L's and Balance Sheet accounts do NOT need separate segments.

    Most companies use a numbering scheme like this:
    1000's are Assets

    2000's are Liabilities

    3000's are Owners Equity

    4000's are Revenue

    5000's are Cost of Revenue

    6000's are SG&A

    7000's could be more SG&A or Employee Cost, etc

    8000's could be "below the line" like taxes or other income, etc.

    The COA I am talking about would look like this for a Sales Account

    200-4500 (for a two segment COA)

    200-150-4500 (for a COA with a "Department" in it)

    The same COA would have a Cash Account like:

    300-1000  (different store, but a cash account)

    I hope this helps.

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    L Vail Profile Picture
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    Hi Kelsey,

    There are many articles on how to create a chart of accounts in GP that will give you the answers you need. This question requires a bit too long of an answer for a forum question. I think you'll get more in-depth information in Blog articles, etc. From what you've said, it sounds like you need only two segments. The store identifier being one segment, and the main account being the other. If you are using a combined balance sheet, then your segment number for your BS accounts would be 0000. I recommend you use five characters for your 'main' account instead of just four. By using four, you really only have three numbers because the first number is usually 'taken'. Meaning, that all your assets will start with a '1', liabilities '2', and so forth. So, at the end of the day you really only have three numbers to further define your account. Three numbers, in my opinion, is not enough.

    You will define your account format in the Account Format Setup window (Administration | Setup | Company | Account Format), the individual posting accounts are setup in the Account Maintenance window (Financial | Cards | Financial | Account). 

    Kind regards,

    Leslie

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    So the store identifiers they would like me to use are 6126, 6128, and 6130. I definitely know how to set up my chart of accounts and know how to # my accounts; but I'm just wanting to set up my initial segments correctly before I do that as I've never set up segments before. Like what is my first step on setting them up? The length fields weren't making sense to me. I've just always had a length of 4 so this is new territory for me! Wouldn't I need a segment for each store?  I hope that narrows down what I'm asking.

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    JodeRuiter Profile Picture
    982 User Group Leader on at

    Yes, the first segment can contain all of those.  You'll need two segments one for stores and one for main. 

    You can have an unlimited number of identifiers in the segments

    That way, when you build reports you can separate them by stores, but all of the GL accounts sync up for consolidated reporting.

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    Richard Wheeler Profile Picture
    75,848 Moderator on at

    You would not set up one segment per store but use the value of that segment for each store. For example:

    01-6126  01-6128  01-6130

    02-6126  02-6128  02-6130

    03-6126  03-6128  03-6130

    In your financial reports you would create what is called a tree that keys off the first segment and then define the rest of the report by the natural accounts. This way you can generate a consolidated report and then reports for the stores or branches of the tree.

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    L Vail Profile Picture
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    Hi,

    I'm with Jo. The account numbers would be more like 6126-1000 (for cash), 6126-2000 (for payables), etc. The Store number is the first segment and the second segment is the main account. Navigate to the Account Format go Administration | Setup | Company | Account Format.

    I'm still going to champion using 5 characters for the main account.

    In setting up accounts, there are many fields on the Account Maintenance window that deserve special attention.

    Account Alias: you can use this as a nickname for the account. Instead of remembering the whole account number, you can name the account like 'Travel', 'Office Supplies', etc.

    Allow Account Entry: check this box only if you want people to be able to make direct Journal entries to this account. I would uncheck this box for all of my control accounts. Accounts like 'Cash', 'Accounts Payable', 'Accounts Receivable', etc. In my opinion, nobody should be able to make direct entries to an account that is updated by a subledger. The default is that each account allows account entry when it is created.

    Category: you can group accounts by category in the financial statement reporters.

    Posting Type: this is critically important that the account be classified correctly at year-end closing. All Profit and Loss accounts are closed to Retained Earnings, Balance sheet accounts will carry forward the ending balance at close.

    Typical Balance: this is more of a tricky one. What it is actually asking you is whether you want the amount to appear as positive or negative in it's financial statement section. For instance, Accumulated Depreciation should be a Typical Debit Balance account because it should be a contra-asset account. You want it to display on the financial statements as a negative number.

    Level of Posting from Series: this works in collaboration with the Posting Setup checkbox of 'Use Account Settings'. If this checkbox is checked in the Posting Setup window, then the system looks to these fields to determine whether the system should post in summary or in detail for each account. The default is Detail.

    Include in Lookup: this setting does not get the respect it deserves. This setting determines which accounts are included in the initial display of accounts when you hit the account lookup button. For instance, if you are in the payables distribution window and you hit the account lookup button, you probably do not want Cash to come up as the first available account. The default is that each account is marked for all series. I would change that. I would only mark allowable expense accounts to display when I initially hit the account lookup button. By only showing expense accounts, you save the user from having to scroll through the whole chart of accounts to get down to the expense accounts

    User Defined Fields: these fields can also be used in reporting. I've seen these fields used to indicate which line the account should appear on in a separate report, like a bank draw report. I've also seen them used to assign the account to a specific accounting clerk for reconciliation purposes. Use your imagination and use these fields to enhance your ability to sort and group account balances.

    Good luck!

    Kind regards,

    Leslie

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    Thank you all! I think I understand more now. I was thinking about segments all wrong. I need two segments, one for Main Accounts(00) and one for the Stores (01). So if I'm thinking about this correctly this is what I want my accounts to look like for example:

    Balance Sheet Accounts:

    00-6126-1000 - cash

    00-6128-1000 - cash

    00-6130-1000 - cash

    P&L Accounts:

    01-6126-6000 - advertising

    01-6128-6000 - advertising

    01-6130-6000 - advertising

    Then I would have a consolidated Balance Sheet which is what I need and then I'd need a consolidated P&L in addition to separate P&L's for each store.

    So my question is how to get them to look like this format in the Account Format Window (pending I'm thinking/doing this correctly now.) Then making my Chart of Account should be a breeze :)

  • Richard Wheeler Profile Picture
    75,848 Moderator on at

    If the first segment represents your stores and the third segment represents the natural account, what is the second segment?  Have you already run GP Utilities and defined the default GL segment structure?  GP supports up to 10 segments and 66 characters. You would want the default to be something larger than what you need now to allow for growth. 

    Using your example you would set the first segment to a maximum length of 2

    The second segment to a maximum length of 4

    The third segment to a maximum length of 4

    So your account settings would be 3 segments with a length of 10.  Set the main account to your natural account.

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    Ok, so I'm just needing two segments, I was showing three?

    6126 - 1000 - Cash

    6128 - 1000 - Cash

    6130 - 1000 - Cash

    6126-6000 - Advertising

    6128-6000 - Advertising

    6130-6000 - Advertising

    The first segment is the store and the second would be the main account. Correct?

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    L Vail Profile Picture
    65,271 on at

    Correct Kelsey. You do not need a segment to identify balance sheet or P&L, that is identified by account on the Account Maintenance window. This is probably trite, but you do not need a space between the segment identifier (the dash) for any of the accounts. I noticed you had a space between the segments in the Cash account above.

    Kind regards,

    Leslie

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