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Hello everyone. Firstly I hope this is the right topic to ask my question, if not please move the right one. Thx.

Secondly - the -pre-question. I'm a developer in another CRM (not be doing an advertising). I'm doing CRM integrations like an entrepreneur:
1. Call to the client.
2. Meeting with the client and his team.
3. Understanding his "wants". (3-rd party integrations, REST-API, IP - telephony, Workflow, Salesflow, Reports, Automations, etc.)
4. Doing a quote for him.
5. Sign an agreement, receives money and start working.

But I'm doing all my steps in Russia market. And I have plans to try my skills with the US market. But I understand two things A) My CRM is not popular in US B) I need to become a Microsoft Dynamics CRM expert and start working at 1-2 years in US company (may by agreement or like a team member).

I really love what I do, and I'll be happy become from a team member to may a partner of my future company.

Third, the questions.
1) In the Second part of my text I explain steps what I'm actually doing right now. What is it right name of that Job in US market? (like Senior CRM integration specialist)?
2) Is it hard to understand the basics and so on, when you know very well another CRM (not Microsoft Dynamics CRM) and later on being an Expert in Microsoft Dynamics CRM?
3) Does anybody have an opportunity and experience to move from your country to US to work like a CRM integration specialist?

Thx, I'll be happy if somebody help me with the answers, Vitaly.

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Aric Levin - MVP 30,190 Moderator on at

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Hi Vitaly,

First of all, although you are saying your are a developer, it seems like you are doing a lot more than just development, if you are dealing with Clients and Sales.

Not sure what the Russian market is like, but when it comes to the actual implementation of a project, the process should be the same, so whether you are doing Agile or Waterfall approach, the way you handle the project is the same.

You are correct that the Market in the US might be different in sense of the CRM systems that are in place, but if you are interested in Dynamics then your first step is to familiarize yourself with the technologies that make it up. The basics would be to know Scripting (JavaScript) and .NET, but there is more to it. The best thing would be to get yourself a Dynamics instance (either trial or not), and start to familiarize with the system.

You can also get certified for Dynamics 365 once you fill you are up to it.

Below are a couple of links to training resources for you:

docs.microsoft.com/.../training

crmbook.powerobjects.com

neilparkhurst.com/.../crm-certifications

There are a lot more, which you can find on this forum or google...

As far as the job that you would be looking for is kind of up to you. As it seems like you are doing multiple types of positions when you engage in a project, you can try for any one of them:

Dynamics CRM Sr. Developer, Dynamics CRM Business Analyst, Dynamics CRM Architect, Dynamics CRM Project Manager. I have only seen integration specialists a few times, but you might find that...

Finally, I am not sure if they will see this or not, but there are a couple of Dynamics MVPs which are not originally from the US which might provide you some insights as to moving to this country.

Hope this helps.

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[quote user="Aric Levin"]First of all, although you are saying your are a developer, it seems like you are doing a lot more than just development, if you are dealing with Clients and Sales.[/quote]

Hi Aric. Yes for me better is negotiating process, actually right now I have a team of programmers. Btw I know a bit of programming (PHP language) but my team members a lot smarter than me in programming.

[quote user="Aric Levin"]You are correct that the Market in the US might be different in sense of the CRM systems that are in place, but if you are interested in Dynamics then your first step is to familiarize yourself with the technologies that make it up. The basics would be to know Scripting (JavaScript) and .NET, but there is more to it. The best thing would be to get yourself a Dynamics instance (either trial or not), and start to familiarize with the system.[/quote]

I probably will. But it's a hardest task, that's my I'm looking a company. But I understand the companies top managers as well, that they don't want to take a person which they should to teach.

[quote user="Aric Levin"]Dynamics CRM Sr. Developer, Dynamics CRM Business Analyst, Dynamics CRM Architect, Dynamics CRM Project Manager. I have only seen integration specialists a few times, but you might find that...[/quote]

Thx for that. In my position right now I'm starting as a CRM Integration Salesmanager, than doing kind of Architecting of future CRM for particular company(client), than Developing with my team being a Project Manager. And after all that stuff start working I'm doing Business Analyst from reports of the CRM system with my client.

[quote user="Aric Levin"]Finally, I am not sure if they will see this or not, but there are a couple of Dynamics MVPs which are not originally from the US which might provide you some insights as to moving to this country.[/quote]

Dynamics MVPs - is like company which may hire me. Or certifing agencies?

Thx.

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Hi Vitaly,

getting a job in the US from overseas won't be easy since you'll need a work visa.

I think your best bet would be to get experience in Dynamics, to build a reputation for yourself, and, then, to see what opportunities come up. But it would have to happen in exactly that order - it's very unlikely an opportunity would come up out of nowhere.

Find a similar job in Russia, start answering / asking questions in these forums, build a tool for Dynamics, start a blog.. Sure it's all possible, and, of course, there is no guarantee.

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[quote user="vicky.rodgers"]The skills and tasks you are describing in your post is very similar to what a Technical Consultant does. You do some development, but not on a full-time capacity. You understand the client's wants and needs and develop a technical solution.[/quote]

The Consultant not just consulting by voice before client choosing solution? But he doing a bit of developing? By developing I mean programming. Or in US developing is a same like setuping the system (not programming)?

[quote user="vicky.rodgers"]I cannot say it will be easy because everything in life is difficult, but it will be much easier if you know another CRM to learn Microsoft Dynamics CRM, since the basic concepts remain the same. [/quote]

Yeah I teach client's team, like tell them what is "Qualification lead is" in Russia it very new terminology, may be in US all people know what it is) And creating a "circuit block" (I hope I translated this is corerct) with a client.

The different will be in interface and 3-rd party integration in Russia with use 1C for account, in US it's a QuickBooks.

[quote user="vicky.rodgers"]

Someone extremely close to me came to Canada and is originally from another country. He worked as a CRM Analyst (with another CRM, no need for publicity here!) in both countries. I know that you may think about going to the USA right now, but Canada has a lot of jobs for people with technical skills that pay really good money. You might want to look into Express Entry, which grants skilled workers permanent residency in Canada: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry.html?utm_source=slash-expressentry_entreeexpress&utm_medium=short-url-en&utm_campaign=express-entry

Since you are Russian, the climate in Canada will pose absolutely no issue for you!

I can tell you that certifications were key for him, since employers could easily figure out his skill level (because certifications on a CRM software are valid everywhere in the world). This is even more important if you do not plan to have a degree from the country you will be relocating to.

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Yes, we looked to Canada as well. When I speak about us I'm talking me and my wife - she is an engineer of the "Designer of oil & gas piplines" so we carefully choosing the place. I tried to become togher with her skills, like doing CRM Integration into Oil and Gas companies, but with no luck.

Thank you for Suggested Resources and Additional Tips. And I hope I undestand correctly word "Brain Dumps". I'm a practician and all my skills that I have I let through myself.

The actual plan is start work remotly with particular company, then become a junior and then senior.

I made a research and found Nigel Frank's Microsoft Dynamics Salary Survey 2017 and it looks like that:

not sure is it possible to lvie at 80k annualy in US) 140k looks like more better. Btw there may be some benefits which I don't know.

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[quote user="Alex Shlega"] getting a job in the US from overseas won't be easy since you'll need a work visa.[/quote]

Yes, not sure how company react on me. When they saw a person which one isn't familiar with Microsoft Dynamics CRM - but good enough with another CRM.

[quote user="Alex Shlega"] I think your best bet would be to get experience in Dynamics, to build a reputation for yourself, and, then, to see what opportunities come up. But it would have to happen in exactly that order - it's very unlikely an opportunity would come up out of nowhere.[/quote]

It's kind of Enterpreneur way which I'm doing in Russia now. I have a blog, youtube channel, website. It's good, but again I understand all diffuculties moving to another county (culture, langunage, life business process and so on) and the easiast way is it to be as much as I can helpy for big company.

[quote user="Alex Shlega"] Find a similar job in Russia, start answering / asking questions in these forums, build a tool for Dynamics, start a blog.. Sure it's all possible, and, of course, there is no guarantee.[/quote]

Actualy I'm working with the most popular CRM in Russia. MS Dynamics CRM is not popular, and I'm not sure that is a professionals here.

ps: Right now I have clients and re-teaching their team memebers Becouse quality of our local integrators is not good. So I don't want study new product from Juniors)

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Hi Vitaly,

Be careful with those market researches. The numbers are never what is actual. I would say usually they are too low. A lot of it has to do with the location where you are located, not only the job function.

First step for you anyways, would be to start getting familiarized with Dynamics CRM.

Hopefully will not be too time consuming (based on the CRM environment you are coming from).

Hope this helps.

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[quote user="Aric Levin"]Be careful with those market researches. The numbers are never what is actual. I would say usually they are too low. A lot of it has to do with the location where you are located, not only the job function.[/quote]

It's just an understanding what is going on and where I should to start from.

[quote user="Aric Levin"]First step for you anyways, would be to start getting familiarized with Dynamics CRM.[/quote]

Yes, I actually doing research between CRM. And what is the best to move to. MS Dynamics is one of them ( but the big one ).

[quote user="Aric Levin"]Hopefully will not be too time consuming (based on the CRM environment you are coming from).[/quote]

Yeah I hope so. My biggest fear is to not undesratding issues of the system. The documentations, online cources and examitaion not always show the issues of the system, but I should to know them before selling stuff to the client) But to undesrtand them I need to have practice)

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1. Yes actully I think live meetings with the clients, I'll love to travel to different states and speak with top managers.

2. ok.

3. Yeah only practical, being an enterpeneur I understand that)

4. Yeah stuck to one employer is one of the my fears.

5. I just made a quick calculation 80k-16k(taxes)-30k(rent a house with a swimming pool)-24k(for food)-6k(rent a car) = 4k at the end of the year) for 2 persons(my wife will be doing the same amount and we can save all her income), but looks that is my calculation. Not sure is it right topic to disscus, but that's my thoughts.

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