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How to record a realized exchange rate Gain/Loss on a cash withdrawal?

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Hello,

I'm wondering how GP users who have bank accounts held in foreign currencies record realized gains/losses separate from unrealized gains/loss. 
In my situation, the company has USD as functional currency and one of its checkbooks in GP is held in CAD.  They only do bank transactions in this account (no A/R or A/P).  I've set up a revaluation option in GP to revalue the CAD G/L cash account and record a UNREALIZED gain/loss at the end of each month.
The question is, how to record a REALIZED gain/loss when money is withdrawn from this account?  Here’s an example:
Jan – Bank Increase Adjustment = 1,000 CAD (.95 Rate)
Feb – Bank Increase Adjustment = 1,000 CAD (.90 Rate)
Mar – Bank Increase Adjustment =  1,000 CAD (.85 Rate)
April – Withdrawal $2,500 CAD to USD (.99 Rate)
 
Since they are getting back more in the equivalent USD than they put in, a gain has been realized, right?.  But when the bank withdrawal is posted, no gain/or lost is recorded by GP.  If I run the Revaluation and set it as realized, won't some of that gain/loss be due to the balance that is still in the account and which should be recorded as unrealized?  How do I get GP to record a realized gain on the withdrawal and an unrealized gain/loss on the remaining $500 at the end of April? 
Or, should the gain/loss on the withdrawal be handled in a different way?  How do other GP users record such a transaction?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!,
Liane

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  • Dale Coulthard Profile Picture
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    Since you have no accruals, assets likeA/R or liabilities like A/P, I would not record a gain/loss on the individual bank transactions.  Those transactions are being carried out at the spot rates which is correct and since there is no accrual, asset or liability to offset against, then to me, there is no gain/loss.  The only unrealized gain/loss is during the revaluation at month end for the G/L balance to the month end spot rate.  If you never have an accrual, asset, or liability to offset the transactions against, there is no realized gain/loss until the bank account is closed.

    Best regards,

    Dale

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    Hi Liane,

    Dale is 100% correct regarding the assets and liabilities.

    Its a tough one. To my mind, the gain and loss is not on the USD Bank account side.

    If you add up the transactions in the CAD account in both USD and CAD - you end up with a balance on the CAD account of: $CAD 500 and $USD 225.

    You revalue this at a rate of .99 - and you end up with: $CAD500 and $USD 495.

    So there is a gain of $USD 270.

    This gain should be Unrealised in every case - since the cash is still held in CAD. I don't believe it should ever be realised? The Realised gain is inherent in the transfer transactions where you transfer cash from the CAD account to the USD account.

    Ian.

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    I disagree with the two suggestions above. In deed you have a realized gain/loss when cash is withdrawn from the account. The only way you will remain with unrealized gain/loss is when the starting amount does not reduce at all.

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