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General Journals: Positive or Negative Amount

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Hi:

I understand the accounting concept of debit and credit and that a minus sign typically signifies "credit".

But, for a General Journal, how do you know whether the amount on a line should be positive or negative, for ANY of the combinations of fields and lines in a general journal?

Thanks!

John

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    RE: General Journals: Positive or Negative Amount

    This is great, Dirk!  Thank you!

    John

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    RE: General Journals: Positive or Negative Amount

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    This is how it looks when we post as described.
    5410 is my payables account

    invoice is shown as credit amount / negative on 5410

    payment is shown as debit amount / positive on 5410

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    RE: General Journals: Positive or Negative Amount

    These are good explanations.  I'm still confused on just one thing.  For example, from the original post:

    Account   =    Vendor

    Amount decimal   =   negative

    Bal. Account   =   Expense Account

    Is that because the "Vendor", in that sense, represents the liability A/P account?

    If that's the case, then I don't understand this:

    A Payment can be registered

    Account = Vendor

    Amount decimal = positive

    Bal. Account = bank/Cash Account

    If the Vendor is A/P liability, then shouldn't it be negative?

    Thanks, Dirk, for your help!  Much appreciated!

    John

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    with "opposite if Balance Account" I meant:

    If the amount is positive (debit) ... it will be registered as debit for the "Account" and as negative (credit) for the "Balance Account".

    A Payment can be registered

    Account = Vendor
    Amount decimal = positive
    Bal. Account = bank/Cash Account.

    or

    Account = Bank/Cash
    Amount decimal = negative
    Bal. Account = Vendor.

    And if you use the Document Type = Payment there is also a control regards the decimal sign

    You cannot enter

    Document Type = Payment
    Account = Vendor
    Amount decimal = negative
    Bal. Account = bank/Cash Account.

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    RE: General Journals: Positive or Negative Amount

    I almost have it.  What is meant by "opposite if Balance Account" especially with regard to:

    Account = Vendor
    Amount decimal = negative
    Bal. Account = Expense Account.

    What if an invoice or payment is involved?

    John

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    RE: General Journals: Positive or Negative Amount

    Hi John,

    This is how I look at this way:

    The Amount always goes with the "Account" (opposite for the Balance Account).
    That means ... it depends which accoutn you specify in the Account and which in the Bal. Account

    Like:
    If you want to regsiter expenses against a cash account

    Account   =    Expense Account
    Amount decimal   =   positive
    Bal. Account   =   Cash G/L Account

    or

    Account   =    Cash G/L Account
    Amount decimal   =   negative
    Bal. Account   =   Expense Account

    If you want to regsiter expenses against a vendor

    Account   =    Expense Account
    Amount decimal   =   positive
    Bal. Account   =   Vendor

    or

    Account   =    Vendor
    Amount decimal   =   negative
    Bal. Account   =   Expense Account

    But you can also use Debit and Credt Amount fields
    (use field "Show Amounts" in General Ledger Setup to specify which amount fields you want to see in journals)

    Please be aware:
    If you use "negative decimal in the "Debit Amount" or "Credit Amount" field, then it will really be a negative amouunt in that field; meaning ... this is to correct wrong entries / to get Debit total and Credit total correct on G/L Accounts

    Hope this helps
      Dirk

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