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Unit Cost for Production Items question - Is it include labor or ?

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Hi 

We are MFG that uses Avg Cost method. In addition, we do not record "actual labor" time in production order. Now these are my questions:

1) Does Unit Cost in Item card or SO include material and labor cost considering that we do not record "actual labor" time. 

2) if "actual labor" time is the must to enter in order to be part of "unit cost" is it anyway that we can define this time in routing or anywhere else and that time always post as "actual time" in order to calculate part of item cost?

Thanks 

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    RE: Unit Cost for Production Items question - Is it include labor or ?

    Omar,

    I am guessing the Production Orders are closed so that would be something a Partner can do behind the scene one-time update. if the Released Production Order is still open, you could reveres the Output and then reenter them with correct cost updated against the Work Center/Machine Center.

    Thanks,

    Steve

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    Omar_Berk 45 on at
    RE: Unit Cost for Production Items question - Is it include labor or ?

    Is there any trick that i can use to update the capacity cost in some released production orders without reversing consumptions and outputs ? I'm using the average costing method. I have  already posted consumption and output with wrong capacity cost.

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    MahGah 15,428 on at
    RE: Unit Cost for Production Items question - Is it include labor or ?

    Hi Steve 

    Thank you so much for providing such a fantastic educational course on Production Order Cost. I have learned a lot. 

    I followed your advice and guideline and that produced the result I wanted. Now I exactly now what needs to be done. Your suggestion about "your Partner can make an extension to push the Expected Hours, by Machine and Work Center, to the Production Journal " is the solution/method that we need. I will work with our partner on that. 

    Thanks again for all your help 

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    RE: Unit Cost for Production Items question - Is it include labor or ?

    MahGah,

    Let me amend my previous reply...

    I want to explain how Production Order Costs work and post in BC -

    When you use an ERP, system built for manufacturing like Microsoft Dynamics 365 Business Central or Dynamics NAV, your production orders play a crucial role in balancing your general ledger accounts. But how does the costing you put into your production orders affect your bottom line?

    To help production managers and finance leaders get on the same page, both parties must understand the cost components of a production order. Doing so minimizes surprises and empowers both sides of the business to communicate effectively within the ERP system.

    • How actual costs post to production orders and then to the general ledger.
    • The components of a production order's cost.
    • How to finish and post a production order.

    How Do Actual Costs Work in a Production Order?

    Actual costs are posted to the production order and can be compared to the production order's expected cost to see any variances. You can analyze these variances to determine if there are any issues in the production process. If you use standard cost, any variances will post to the general ledger when the production order finishes.

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     What Goes into the Cost of a Production Order?

    The actual cost of a production order consists of the following components:

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    Let's review each cost component and how it posts.

    Consumption

    Consumption is posted to a production order from either the consumption or production journal. If you use backward or forward flushing methods, consumption can be automatically posted. When consumption posts, the following transactions occur:

    • Item Ledger Entry: A consumption item ledger entry is posted to remove the raw material from inventory.

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    • G/L Entry: A G/L entry is posted. The unit cost utilized is based upon the item's costing method. G/L accounts are selected from the item's inventory posting group setup. The G/L transaction posts to:

    Debit               WIP

    Credit             Inventory

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    Labor (Capacity)

    Labor is posted to a production order from either the output or production journal. Expected labor can also post automatically when utilizing backward or forward flushing methods. When labor is posted, the following transactions occur:

    • Capacity Ledger Entry: A capacity ledger entry is posted to accumulate labor time and dollars. Labor can be posted as a direct labor cost or an overhead cost.

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    • G/L Entry: A G/L entry is posted. The direct unit cost on the work or machine center is used to calculate Direct Cost Applied – Labor. The indirect cost % or overhead rate on the work or machine center is used to calculate Overhead Applied. The G/L accounts used are determined by the work or machine center's Product Posting Group setup. The G/L transaction posts to:

    Debit               WIP

    Credit             Direct Cost Applied

    Credit             Overhead Applied

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    Subcontracting

    When you create a purchase order from the subcontracting worksheet, subcontracting costs are posted to a production order. When the purchase order is posted as invoiced, the following transactions occur:

    • Capacity Ledger Entry: A capacity ledger entry is posted for the total subcontracting cost.
    • G/L Entry: A G/L entry is posted. The direct unit cost on the purchase invoice is used to calculate Direct Cost Applied –Subcontracting. G/L accounts are selected from the work or machine center's Product Posting Group setup. The G/L transaction posts to:

    Debit               WIP

    Credit             Direct Cost Applied – Subcontracting

    Manufacturing Overhead

    Manufacturing Overhead is posted to a production order when an output transaction is posted from either the output or production journal. When output is posted, the following manufacturing overhead transactions occur:

    • Production Order Statistics: The cost is displayed on production order statistics when Output transaction is posted.
    • G/L Entry: A G/L entry is posted for production order finishes. The manufacturing overhead is set up on the finished good item card as an Indirect Cost % and/or an Overhead Rate. G/L accounts are selected from the item's inventory posting group setup. The G/L transaction posts to:

    Debit               Inventory

    Credit             Overhead Applied

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    Output

    Output is posted to a production order from either the output or production journal. When an output is posted, the following transactions occur: 

    • Item Ledger Entry: An output item ledger entry is posted to add the finished goods item to inventory.

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    • G/L Entry: A G/L entry is posted only if Expected Cost Posting is turned on. The unit cost from the item card is utilized for the expected output cost. G/L accounts are selected from the item's inventory posting group setup. The G/L transaction posts to:

    Debit               Inventory - Interim

    Credit             WIP

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    Finishing a Production Order

    When production output and all cost component transactions are complete, the production order status must change to "Finished" to post "actual" cost for the output transaction and post variances to the G/L if you use standard cost as the costing method. When the output is posted, the following transactions occur:

    • Item Ledger Entry: All output item ledger entries for a production order update from expected cost to actual cost.

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    • G/L Entry: A G/L entry is posted only if Expected Cost Posting is turned on. The expected output cost comes from the item card, and the G/L accounts used are selected from the item's inventory posting group setup. The G/L transaction posts to:

    Debit/Credit             WIP

    Debit/Credit             Material Variance

    Debit/Credit             Capacity Variance

    Debit/Credit             Cap. Overhead Variance

    Debit/Credit             Subcontracting Variance

    Debit/Credit             Mfg. Overhead Variance

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    So now that we have gone over the postings, how does Average Costing Method play into this. You have a BOM and Routing and set your Flushing Methods. The main issue lies with the fact the Output Journal/Production Journal CANNOT today, default the expected hours for Routing Steps. This does not mean the Shop Floor APP's cannot, which I recall they can, but this mean whomever will Post the Production Journal will need to enter the time. I would offer a solution that your Partner can make an extension to push the Expected Hours, by Machine and Work Center, to the Production Journal and therefor eliminate the entry step. Now that you have this resolve and you post your Output (Time and Finished Good), when you change the Production Order Status to Finished, I would check 'Update Unit Cost' to account for any differences in the Production Process effecting the last Output and the Unit Cost field is updated.

    Getting back to your question of the difference, the .06 is the Material as the Roll-up for Capacity and Subcontractor will NOT touch Unit Cost for Average Cost Items. When you manufacture OUTPUT and Update Unit Cost, it will. Try running a test with your Manufactured Item. Go through the process and post your Production Journal. Make sure you enter the Time to see the impact. When you Change Status, Update Unit Cost. Now look at the Item Card.

    One other thing to consider, if you use the Costing Method Standard, the Standard Cost will auto-roll Material, Capacity, and Subcontractor values. You still will need to enter Time or add an extension or use an APP, like Shop Floor Control from Insight Works.

    Hope I've answered your questions and given more information on the overall process and postings.

    Thanks,

    Steve

  • MahGah Profile Picture
    MahGah 15,428 on at
    RE: Unit Cost for Production Items question - Is it include labor or ?

    Hi Steve 

    That helps a lot.

    For one item in our system I see $0.06 in Unit Cost but Total cost is $0.152 I guess $0.06 is a material cost only. 

    What I need is a Total cost. How I can pull the Total cost into Jet Report? Or is it anyway BC pulls the Total Cost instead of Unit Cost in SO? 

    Thanks 

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    RE: Unit Cost for Production Items question - Is it include labor or ?

    MahGah,

    The Item Card Unit Cost, after Roll-Up, would include your Routing Work Center costs. So, taking the BOM and Routing the Unit Cost will include: Components, Work Center Routing hours (inclusive of Indirect/Direct Overhead), and Subcontractor Routing. This is just the Expected BOM and Routing Unit Cost.

    If you record Actual Labor, then Actual Time and Component Cost will be posted against the Prod. Order and used in calculating the Weighted Average Unit Cost. If you DO NOT record Actual time and if you are backflushing the Output Routing Times, then the hours Posted will be that of the Expected from the Routing.

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    Hope this helps.

    Thanks,

    Steve

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