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Detailed Differences between PRO and BASIC in CRM Online 2013

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Hi there

I have some questions regarding more detailed specifics on the differences in functionality/usage rights between the Pro and Basic subscription levels for Dynamics CRM Online Fall 2013 over what I've come across so far. I have looked at many guides, including the Dynamics CRM Online Licensing Quick Reference Guide, have read Jesper’s great article (http://tinyurl.ms/yzxg) and have looked at various charts such as the ones shown in this blog post (http://tinyurl.com/npfsoqf ) . I’ve read posts discussing the new “simple” licensing and simplistic examples of types of users needing which level, such as the ones here: http://tinyurl.com/ltvmhoo and here:

So having read all of this, I still have some questions with regards to Basic users. I have read it described as “For sales, service and marketing users who need to manage accounts, contacts, leads, cases and access custom applications as well as for business analysts who require reporting capabilities. And is designed for users or teams that have assigned records such as accounts, contacts, leads, cases or activities. Typically, these users focused on core, assigned activities supporting sales, service and marketing.  These are users who need to create, update, edit or manage their own accounts, contacts, leads or cases. They may need access custom applications that use CRM data or require reporting or query capabilities.  Customer service representatives, business analysts, sales, service staff and clerical staff with assigned accounts or tasks would fit into the “Basic” group.”

With that said, how is a Basic subscription level good for sales, if they do not have access to Opportunities. I read somewhere that they can READ opportunities, just can’t do anything with them. How, then, is this good for Sales staff since they would need to manage and control their opportunities.

Here is our scenario, and perhaps someone can help with min. licensing rights that would be required and why:

• We have estimators that work outside the office that need access to creating & updating Accounts/Contacts and leads. We can get by with someone internally with a Pro license reviewing these leads and converting them to opportunities. No problem there. However, once that Opportunity exists, these estimators should be able to provide a Quote to the Contact (we plan on developing a custom quoting application within CRM that updates the Quote records in CRM. Currently, this quoting is done externally but we do want the estimators to record that data in the CRM system. I suppose optionally we could have the estimator submit their quotes to the office and have someone there with Pro license record the quote in CRM). Regardless, the estimator should be able to convert those quotes to a sale at some point and should be able to track their outstanding estimates and sales within CRM. From what I can see, the Basic license does not permit this??

• In addition, we have production workers out in the field that need to be able to read & update Account/Contacts as well as info from some custom entities. It appears the Basic license allows this. Everyone needs to access correspondence that has occurred with these accounts/contacts as well.

So reading one of the charts (www.muchmorebi.com/Microsoft_CRM_2013_License_Level.htm ), Basic license does not have access to “Opportunity Tracking”, “Order Management”, “Price Lists” or “Quote Management”.  What all do these things this entail/cover in the product? What screens/entities? Since the sales pipeline is mostly about opportunities, quote and sales, how useful is this subscription level to a service organization that estimates and quotes on jobs having products and labour? Or does that mean just no updating of Opportunity info (such as attaching a quote)? Can they see their opportunities in a sales pipeline, for example?

I’ve read that CRM does not enforce usage rights and that it must be controlled through assigning access permissions within CRM itself via security roles.

We are generating quotes (eventually) through a set of custom forms and entities in order to feed that to the Quotes. Those quotes should be able to be converted to a sale by anyone. Those sales are sent to Dynamics GP through the connector by a Pro license user. That invoice is fed back into CRM and should be viewable by that estimator/sales person in their pipeline. Also, if an estimator is out at a job site and notices other bidders, they should be able to record that info against the opportunity. I guess they cannot do that with a Basic subscription because they cannot do “Competitor Tracking”?

I guess bottom line, although I can read all of these charts that tell me what the subscription levels do or do not have access to, it still doesn’t drill down enough tell me what that feature entails and what they may or may not have read only or update permissions to. Specifically Quote Management, Price Lists, Oder Management, Invoice management, Competitor Tracking, Goal Management. Is the term “management” more of  an admin side thing but the Basic users still can access and update the forms, just not share or assign??

Sorry this is so lengthy but I could really use some direction/more info on what these Actions entail.

Thanks!

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    ScottDurow Profile Picture
    21 on at

    Hi,

    These are all very good points. Personally I think it boils down to how you intend to use Dynamics CRM rather than different roles within your business. If you are using all of the features of Dynamics CRM then it is likely that you'll have to fully license all of your users - but if you are using Dynamics CRM as simple contact/account management then the basic license will suffice.

    I am seeing Paco next week so I will put these questions to him.

    Hope this helps,

    Scott

  • ScottDurow Profile Picture
    21 on at

    I gave Paco your feedback and he took note of the request for more detail around the individual entity privileges for each license level.

  • DonnaM Profile Picture
    390 on at

    Thanks Scott! Can't wait to hear more. We've gone ahead with the licensing we think we need, but it would be nice if the estimators could get away with a lower priced SKU as they don't need a lot of the other stuff.

  • Community Member Profile Picture
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    DM

    This is what I found out when trying to find the same info. We are using the Basic plan as well.

    Professional is used for development. I would get the bare min amount for Users.

    Basic can do everything the Professional except for development.

    Basic can create, delete, cancel and update: Opportunities, quotes, orders, invoices.

    The do have access to the Price list

    Hope this helps.

    _damon

  • Michael Hansen123 Profile Picture
    775 on at

    Hi DM,

    From what I have been reading, this is incorrect. For a basic license you cannot create opportunities.

    What you need to do is create a Security Role and add the License type to get your correct licensing applied to the user. Even if I apply a basic license in my OnPrem instance, I can still do all things a Pro License can do.

    I need to create a security role that limits rights based on the security model of that license type. Only then are we compliant. Just applying a license wont work in order to be compliant.  

    So Basic can't really do everything Professional can outside development.

    Am I correct in my assumption here?

  • Royal King Profile Picture
    27,686 on at

    Below post provides detailed difference between all license types

    mscrmonline.wordpress.com/.../microsoft-crm-2013-online-user-subscription-license-options-professional-basic-and-essential

  • Community Member Profile Picture
    on at

    Hi Chitra,

    This chart is still confusing as Basic user has access to opportunity,  can a user edit, create, delete opportunities?

  • Community Member Profile Picture
    on at

    Hello DM, Based on your scenario, have you purchased "Pro" licenses for the users updating opportunities? Please assist

  • Royal King Profile Picture
    27,686 on at

    Yes user should be able to add/edit opportunity records.

  • Community Member Profile Picture
    on at

    Basic users cannot create Opportunities or do anything else with them. They cannot even qualify a Lead into an Opportunity (which is stupid, in my opinion, since the built-in Qualify process always creates an Opp whether you want one or not. So you have to replace this with your mechanism).

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