Customizing the Command bar

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Posted on by Per L

Some years ago customizing the /Ribbon/ was done with the RibbonWorkbench. Now, with Dynamics 365 it seems there is an OOTB Command bar editor available in Powerapps menus.

I spent some time with it today but got nowhere. In any of the model-driven apps, regardless of which button I select, it tells me it is Read-only and everything is greyed out. No way to hide or move around etc... There is a link to something like a /disclaimer page/ which does not really help.

But what should I expect here and how can I know if the buttons are classic commands or modern commands??

And, if there are limitations to these new kind of apps, I guess that the RibbonWorkbench will not be able to handle it either, right?

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/power-apps/maker/model-driven-apps/command-designer-overview

In the comparison at the end of that document, it says /Commands become editable in command designer once migrated to the modern framework./ What does that mean, what /modern framework/?

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MattHardy 9 on at

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The greyed out buttons you're seeing is because they're implemented in the 'old' editor (ribbon workbench). They haven't migrated their default buttons over to the new stuff yet, so it doesn't let us modify them because they're not compatible since there's no JS visibility option in the "new" editor. Basically, everything grey is classic and can't be edited from the 'new' editor.

Ribbon Workbench is still able to handle everything as far as I can tell. I don't see them depreciating the old controls or moving the old buttons to the "modern framework" any time soon based on what I've observed. Even their recent "new look" released a month ago or so continues to use the old way.

Personally, I plan to stay away from the command editor's version of buttons for as long as possible. We implemented them in our dynamics 365 app, and there's a slew of problems that led us to rip them out and implement with ribbon workbench. The most pressing was performance. If you have a custom visibility options using their powerfx stuff, prepare to be disappointed when it comes to performance. Say you select 250 records from a subgrid where you use the powerfx, it will individually query every entity and perform the visibility check. On one grid, it took 16 seconds to finally display ribbon from how slow it is. Compared to the javascript function, which performed in about 0.5 seconds including api calls...

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When is this getting fixed/re-engineered?

This has been going on for years and you'd think the move to Power Apps and with the new Command Designer function, using a 3rd party tool would be in the dust.

Yes I know it is a current limitation but when is it not going to be? https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/power-apps/maker/model-driven-apps/command-designer-limitations

But this is so promising and I hope really close to providing the end game of moving or renaming a button from within Power Apps: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/power-apps/maker/model-driven-apps/use-command-designer

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Alex KaSi 41 on at

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The RibbonWorkbench still works perfectly without restrictions.

The OOTB Command Bar Editor only lets you add custom buttons but you can't edit any default stuff, so its pretty useless.

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