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Reopening customer invoices / canceling payments in bulk

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Hello dear community,

each month my company generates direct debit files for thousands of customers. Following that, the customer payment journals are posted, invoices are settled and set in stone.

After a few days we receive notification from the bank that among the thousands of direct debits, several hundred failed. These failed customer payments come to us in the form of a standard CAMT.054 file that is easily imported in a customer payment journal.

My issue is that the import of the camt.054 file only creates "opposite" payment transactions (debit instead of credit), which balance the customer accounts, without any link to the invoices which payment were rejected. Therefore I need to find a way to repoen these customer invoices in bulk.

The monthly amount of failed direct debit (several hundreds) makes the manual cancellation not efficient at all.

My question are:

  • is it possible to make the payment journal reopen paid and settled past customer invoices in bulk?
  • if not, is there a way to use the "cancel payment" functionnality

Thanks in advance for your help,

Alexis

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    SouravDam Profile Picture
    11,730 on at

    Hello Alexis Zhao,

    My question are:

    • is it possible to make the payment journal reopen paid and settled past customer invoices in bulk?
    • if not, is there a way to use the "cancel payment" functionality

    1st point: - Once journal is posted, you cannot reopen it.

    You can manually reverse / unsettle the invoices from "All customers" form but that will be a tedious task and not applicable as you have many records to do.

    Check with the developer to run a job to set those settled invoices "Unsettled".

    2nd point: - Reverse option is available in the payment journal voucher. But if the journal is posted with account type "Bank", then system will not allow you to reverse those transactions.

    Better; "Unsettle" the invoices through a job and then create a new customer payment journal.

    You can either use Excel add-ins or Data management to upload the customer payment journal lines in the new payment journal.

    Only you have to flip the amount. Example below.

    Previous entry

    Bank - DR 100
    Customer - CR 100

    In new payment journal entry

    Either you can upload like this....

    Customer - DR 100
    Bank - CR 100

    Or can do like this...

    Bank - DR (-100)
    Customer - CR (-100)

    Post the journal first. It will knocked off the previously posted balance.

    Then upload new payment journal again with invoice numbers for settlement.

    Best regards,
    Sourav Dam

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    11,730 on at

    Hello Alexis Zhao,

    Is this sorted out?

    Could you kindly check and update the Forum in this thread.

    Best regards,
    Sourav Dam

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  • Alexis Zhao Profile Picture
    15 on at

    Hello Sourav,

    thank you very much for taking the time to answer.

    I will do some tests to see if the unsettlement of the invoices make them appear again in the open customer invoices form.

    If it does, the dev and I will then be able to implement the solution you propose. I will update this post whether we make it work or not.

    Regards,

    Alexis

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    SouravDam Profile Picture
    11,730 on at

    Hello Alexis Zhao,

    Thanks for the feedback.

    Kindly keep us updated on this thread.

    Best regards,
    Sourav Dam

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