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Rebate credit notes need an invoice number

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In our current Dynamics AX 2012 R3 implementation, and again in planning our D365 F&O migration, I am hit with a gap in the rebate credit note functionality.  The system places a credit note journal directly onto the customer's AR account, without any information about what it is for, such as the rebate program id, date range for which the rebate was earned, etc.  The folks in the credit and collections department have no idea which invoices it goes with to settle the credit with their debits.  Plus there is no output document that can be sent to the customer to tell them about their credit note and what it is for.  Even more important is that, in all countries outside US and Canada, my business users have said that it is not compliant to handle a rebate settlement as an adjustment directly to their account - it needs to have an invoice number and be included in VAT reporting and e-invoicing for countries that require it.   

In AX we did an extensive customization to provide the capability to input notes and print an output document.  Then later we enhanced it further to generate a sales order that can be invoiced so we could use it outside US and Canada.  We also enhanced the Japan consolidated invoice to include credit memos so we could show rebates on there.  In D365 we do NOT want to do any such customizations.

Has anyone ever successfully used rebates in countries that require VAT reporting or e-invoicing (like most of Europe, Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Japan Sei-ku-sho, China Golden tax, etc.)?

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  • MATTGUO Profile Picture
    22,349 Moderator on at

    Hello,

    I see that you had created an idea for Microsoft: experience.dynamics.com/.../

    The OOB feature directly process the rebate credit note: docs.microsoft.com/.../process-rebates-payment

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    Ludwig Reinhard Profile Picture
    Microsoft Employee on at

    Helly Lynn,

    I can only refer to my home 'turf' (Europe) where tax rules require that you let the customer know what kind of deductions are made.

    We usually do this in the form of a separate credit note document (invoice document) that also corrects tax.

    Without creating such an external document you can get into trouble from an auditing and taxation perspective.

    To me the main issue seems not so much related with the system functionality and the postings made but rather with the creation and transmission of this additional document that needs to be created.

    You can do this either through a system modification or try using standard tools; especially the electronic reporting feature.

    (Building an invoice like document from scratch in electronic reporting is, however, not easy and a development like experience. That's why you might need some dev support here).

    Hope this helps.

    Best regards,

    Ludwig

  • Community Member Profile Picture
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    Thank you for finding the 'idea' I had submitted two years ago!  I thought I had, but when I went looking last week I was having trouble accessing the Ideas page at all.  So thank you for confirming what I thought in my memory I had done.  It only has 7 votes so far!  :-( If you are reading this and need to use rebates in all countries, please place your vote at the link provided above by MATTGUO!  

    Thanks!

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    Thank you Ludwig for your quick reply.  You are confirming what I thought as well.   You are correct that the GL posting are fine, but since the AR posting isn't tied to an invoice, we'd have to customize loads of different localizations and tax reports to 'get around' this to make it look like an invoice.  That didn't seem like a viable path forward.   We avoided that in AX 2012 by doing a customization to create a sales order that could then be invoiced.  That way all the localizations would work out of the box.  We considered using a Free Text Invoice, but in some countries those aren't allowed, so to make our solution truly global, we chose sales order/sales invoice.

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