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We have a client who has been using GP since 1995. They currently have 29 users and have accumulated 78 self-service users.They have never used any of these users. They now want to add 5 additional GP users. Sales Operations is telling us they now need to pay for those 78 self-service users plus the 5 new users. If we reassign 5 of the existing users to self-service users can we add 5 full GP users so these new full users can log into GP at the same time the newly assigned self-service users re logged in?

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    Beat Bucher  GP Geek  GPUG All Star Profile Picture
    28,058 Moderator on at

    Hi Richard,

    You'll have to fight for those Self-Service users, as I remember going thru the same nightmare when Microsoft changed from the BRL (Business Ready Licensing) model to the Perpetual licensing, back between 2013 and 2015.

    The source of our concern was the accumulated Business Portal users licences that had grown to 'unlimited' since the years the company had been using GP, but Microsoft only allowed to convert those 'light' users to self-service users in the new PL model at a ratio of 3 to 1, and they would take the number of users that were purchased during the initial setup, which was something like 250 or 300 light users. HR/PR would have a 500 employee limit which was used for PDK to enter TS & EE Reports, but with the conversion to the Self-Service users, the company would have lost most of them and would have had to re-purchase dozens of light users license so employees could actually use the Web client to enter TS and EE reports.

    After much discussion with the partner and Microsoft Sales Ops, we were granted 300 self-service licenses for the conversion from BP to the new GP 2015, as the company had at least 260 employees and was still need some space to grow.. Condition was that the company was up-to-date for SQL CAL's for every single employee computer (yes, those same 260 employees), which wasn't a big deal as we already had some 250 CAL's for SQL.

    The transition deal was a terrible setback for most customers that had been using BP for years and were almost forced to buy new licenses to get all their employees access to the web client for time & expense entries.

  • Richard Wheeler Profile Picture
    75,852 Moderator on at

    Thanks Beat. Microsoft does very often appear to go out of their way to build road blocks for our customers.

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    Lisa at AonC.com Profile Picture
    1,028 Super User 2026 Season 1 on at

    Is the issue that Microsoft is saying they have to "buy" the Self-Service licenses or they need to buy the SQL licenses associated with them?  (I have definitely run into the SQL licensing issue when adding full user licenses when they also have SQL Runtime Licenses as part of the PLP.)

    If they don't need to Self-Service licenses, they can be de-activated in the PartnerSource Business Center > Registered Modules window for the customer.

    There are more hurdles required to remove the SQL Runtime Licenses as the customer will need to show proof of SQL licenses from another source.

  • Richard Wheeler Profile Picture
    75,852 Moderator on at

    The problem was this NFP got it SQL license from Tech Soup. For some reason after over 20 years when they wanted to add an additional 5 users Microsoft insisted on charging them $76 for each of their existing SQL CALs which was 29. The client is none too pleased but we are stuck in the middle. We deactivated the self-service users but MS insisted on charging for all 34 SQL CALs.

  • Lisa at AonC.com Profile Picture
    1,028 Super User 2026 Season 1 on at

    Ah, been there before.  Since TechSoup licenses are for a specific version - and not automatically updated like Runtime on an active maintenance plan - you have to submit the TechSoup licensing documentation to Microsoft Sales Ops/Agreements to get the SQL runtime licenses deactivated before you can add GP licenses.

  • Beat Bucher  GP Geek  GPUG All Star Profile Picture
    28,058 Moderator on at

    Lisa,

    Do you know where you can get the SQL Run-Time licensed downloads for GP ? since CS / PS was shutdown, there seems to be no place in the current Docs site where this can be found.. I've a client that needs to upgrade their GP & SQL to more recent version, but their old SQL 2012 run-time license needs to be upped to 2019..

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    75,852 Moderator on at
  • Lisa at AonC.com Profile Picture
    1,028 Super User 2026 Season 1 on at

    Thank you, Richard!  I was thinking we were going to have to do Support cases to retrieve them.  :)

  • Beat Bucher  GP Geek  GPUG All Star Profile Picture
    28,058 Moderator on at

    thank you Richard!

    This is exactly what I was looking for...

    it is only that I was never able to find a link somewhere in the portal to those downloads.

    I'm going to bookmark those for the future.

  • Richard Wheeler Profile Picture
    75,852 Moderator on at

    We can thank Terry Healey for those links. She is the best!!!

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