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Italy : Several Supplier having the same VAT number

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Hello Everybody,

We are running AX 2012 R3 CU8, and I have a question of our Italian subsidiaries.

They have two suppliers, but the same VAT number... When registering the VAT number on the second supplier, they get an infolog message "Another supplier exists with the same value in the field VAT number."

My colleague told me that "they have the same vat number because they are part of the same holding"

I took a look on the checkVATNumUsed method for table VendTable

boolean checkVATNumUsed()
{
boolean ret = true;
VendTable tmpVendTable;
#ISOCountryRegionCodes

if (SysCountryRegionCode::isLegalEntityInCountryRegion([#isoIT]) && this.vatNum)
{
select firstonly RecId,vatNum from tmpVendTable
where tmpVendTable.RecId != this.RecId &&
tmpVendTable.vatNum == this.vatNum;
if (tmpVendTable.RecId)
{
ret = checkFailed(strFmt("@SYS79301",fieldPName(VendTable, vatNum)));
}
}
return ret;
}

This is the standard method (sys layer). Of course I can make an update of this method, returning true each time... But not sure there is notanother way to do ? 

Any idea please ?

  • A.ZAID Profile Picture
    10 on at
    RE: Italy : Several Supplier having the same VAT number

    Hello Christophe ,

    We are running AX 2009 , and we can use the same VAT Number for both suppliers which are part of the same holding.

    you have to create the first supplier account with VAT nubmer.

    When you are creating the second supplier , don't go to the VAT table to create a new VAT number , but  copy and paste the VAT from first supplier .

    We use the VAT holding for both suppliers.

    BR

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    Ludwig Reinhard Profile Picture
    Microsoft Employee on at
    RE: Italy : Several Supplier having the same VAT number

    Hi Christophe,

    For tax group reporting you need to adjust something in AX2012.

    In D365FO you can do that out of the box with electronic reporting but that is not available in AX2012.

    Best regards,

    Ludwig

  • Christophe BOURNAC Profile Picture
    115 on at
    RE: Italy : Several Supplier having the same VAT number

    Extract from ENEL web site (www.enel.it/.../costituzione-gruppo-iva-enel)

    Like other companies in Italy, Enel Energia has also joined the new optional VAT Group tax regime (Article 70 of Presidential Decree No. 633 of 1972). With this regime, a single and autonomous VAT taxable person is established with a single VAT number for all participating companies (VAT number 15844561009) to replace the single previous VAT numbers.

    What the VAT Group is and how it works

    By implementing this procedure, Enel Energia will present itself as part of a group that will act as a single taxpayer (for VAT purposes only). This group will therefore have a single VAT number, the VAT Group. All transactions carried out by one of the subjects belonging to the VAT Group are considered to have been carried out by the entire group.

    What changes in Enel Energia

    With reference to the contractual documentation and the invoices issued to its customers, from 1 January 2021, Enel Energia will report on this documentation the new data of the Group VAT number together with the name and tax code of the company.

    And at the End, several Suppliers because different adresses

    Thank's for the tip, and we can close the point. I think I will modify the method ;-)

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    Ludwig Reinhard Profile Picture
    Microsoft Employee on at
    RE: Italy : Several Supplier having the same VAT number

    Hi,

    In this case, do you need to setup two separate vendors?

    If they are part of the same holding, wouldn't be a single vendor account be sufficient?

    Best regards,

    Ludwig

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