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Difference between Item and Service if both are selected as NonStock Item

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Hi,

What is the difference between Item and Service, if both are selected as NonStock Item(Unchecked Stocked product checkbox in item model group)

If both will have same functionality then what is the purpose of giving stocked product check box.

And also what happens if product is service and in item model i have selected stocked product checkbox ?

can anyone kindly explain me this.

Thanks,

Samanth Aluvaka

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  • Valenc Profile Picture
    5 on at
    RE: Difference between Item and Service if both are selected as NonStock Item

    technical difference still not provided

  • guk1964 Profile Picture
    10,886 on at
    RE: Difference between Item and Service if both are selected as NonStock Item

    Using service items as cost collectors when detail route planning is not needed is a common practice.

    I suggest now close and verify this thread.

  • Ankit Batra Profile Picture
    1,561 on at
    RE: Difference between Item and Service if both are selected as NonStock Item

    I am creating stocked serviced items so that i can associate them with a formula. I plan to use them as an alternate to routes to post labour and overhead costs for the production order. I have set them to be backflushed on finish/RAF.

    I do not want to create non-stocked items and the question for purely for knowledge purpose/theoretical. I found it to be technically same as non-stocked service items.

    You explanation above is perfect and is inline with my grid I created above.

  • guk1964 Profile Picture
    10,886 on at
    RE: Difference between Item and Service if both are selected as NonStock Item

    Non -stock item include consumables expensed on receipt e.g. stationery, but can also used for direct delivery drop shipment so they do not pass through average stock calculation in the warehouse -  that may suit some companies but you need to be carful that it will apply to all deliveries and not change in future -otherwise you might as well use marking when required. In practise I doubt its used much.

  • Guy Terry Profile Picture
    28,864 Moderator on at
    RE: Difference between Item and Service if both are selected as NonStock Item

    Hi Ankit,

    For me:

    • 'Service' item means "don't track On-hand for this item".
    • 'Non-stocked' on the model group means "don't create Inventory transactions".

    In the examples Microsoft give, they talk about

    • Items which are Stocked
    • Service items which are Stocked
    • Service items which are non-Stocked

    They do not talk about Items which are non-stocked. Do you want to create non-stocked items?

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    guk1964 Profile Picture
    10,886 on at
    RE: Difference between Item and Service if both are selected as NonStock Item

    Practically there is not a lot of difference and in prior versions of Ax service items were used for non-stock.

    I mentioned some minor differences.

    The procurement  categories or coverage policies or item  attributes you use for non- stocked item are likely to be different from hose that use for a true Service so while not necessary it is useful to have both options. 

  • Ankit Batra Profile Picture
    1,561 on at
    RE: Difference between Item and Service if both are selected as NonStock Item

    Thank you for the detailed response magic1949.

    However, it does not still answer my initial query that technically there is no difference b/w and service item which is non-stocked and an item which is non-stocked in AX 2012.

    In my grid below i have listed various different behavior for each type of item/stocked/nonstocked and service item non-stocked and item non-stocked are exactly the same in every regard.

    Am i missing something? Please help elaborate.

    Thank you!

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    guk1964 Profile Picture
    10,886 on at
    RE: Difference between Item and Service if both are selected as NonStock Item

    In practis e in Ax 2009 they were sued for the same thing but there some distinctions to be aware.

    Neither goes into stock so neither is part of inventory closing.

    You can't issue either a non stock item/or non-stock service to a BOM /formula because it is never received into stock. Non-stock items are meant for trading with direct delivery or for expense items/consumables..

    In Ax 2009 items there were no Service items, so the reference data for such a service item was defined specially for these items. In the inventory model group, negative physical and financial inventory were allowed for service items. Furthermore, all ledger integration options, particularly the Post financial inventory for such 'service items' were left blank to ensure that, when we we didn't want to set an item up in Released products because it would not be a recurring purchase, we then purchase by using Procurement category on the PO line and enter the details of the item on Line details - Text.Purchasing e.g.a  car service, an expense account was used for receipt transactions.  To be able to support non-stocked trade for the sales side, you would instead of defining dummy service items, use the free text invoice function next to the sales order function.

    When setting up non-inventoried items, they will have financial dimensions which will carry through to the PO.  If you use a procurement category to order on a PO line, you have to manually add the financial dimensions at the line details.

    There  was a problem with mixing inventory items and non-inventory items on a sales order. You can’t post picking lists for non-inventory items (or non-stocked products in Dynamics AX 2012 terminology), so in the past the process of creating a delivery note or invoice for a mixture of stocked products, and non stock controlled e.g.  pallets  often required customization.. This problem was resolved in Dynamics AX 2012 with the addition of a parameter to the sales order delivery note/packing slip posting form i.e.:

    Dynamics AX2012 useful parameter - "Picked quantity and not stocked products"

    This new ‘picked quantity and non stocked products’ option allows to create a delivery note and invoice for a sales order with a mixture of products

    It may also be useful for reporting purposes to be able to distinguish more easily between expensed consumables and services.

    There also posting differences when you purchase a fixed asset as a stock item or as a non-stock item  e.g. you may hold an asset such as a meter inventory until installed or used as a spare part.. You would not buy a fixed asset as a service.

    See also: technet.microsoft.com/.../hh803002.aspx

  • Ankit Batra Profile Picture
    1,561 on at
    RE: Difference between Item and Service if both are selected as NonStock Item

    Is it correct that there is no difference b/w a service item which is non-stocked and an item which is non-stocked?

    Item Type Stocked Can be added in a Formula/BOM? On-Hand? Inventory Transactions? Expensed Directly?
    Service Item Yes Yes No Yes At the time of invoice posting, the posting type is Purchase, Inventory Receipt
    Service Item No No No No At the time of invoice posting, the posting type is Purchase expenditure for expense
    Item Yes Yes Yes Yes At the time of invoice posting, the posting type is Purchase, Inventory Receipt
    Item No No No No At the time of invoice posting, the posting type is Purchase expenditure for expense
  • Samanth Profile Picture
    517 on at
    RE: Difference between Item and Service if both are selected as NonStock Item

    Thanks Andre. The link was useful.

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