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Asset Leasing -Payment schedule and present value

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1. Vendor-A
-lease commenced on24th Jan 2025. 
IFRS a6 book- convention None, Annuity type is Annuity due.
 
- Lease payment will start from 1st Feb 2026.  User says from commencement date to payment date- the compounding should be monthly, afterwards annually.
How should I define this payment contract in system, as the compounding term is defined for whole lease not for individual payment lines. Anyone can advise?
1-Feb-26        32,366
1-Feb-27        29,460
1-Feb-28        29,460
1-Feb-29        31,078
1-Feb-30        30,933
1-Feb-31        30,933
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  • Suggested answer
    Abhilash Warrier Profile Picture
    5,402 Super User 2025 Season 2 on at
    Hi RJ,
     
    Could you please try the below workaround - 
    Lease Setup Summary in D365 F&O
    1. Create Lease Summary
    • Navigate to Asset Leasing > Lease summary
    • Create a new lease record and set:
    • Commencement Date: 24-Jan-2025
    • Lease Term End Date: 01-Feb-2031
    • Annuity Type: Annuity Due
    • Compounding Frequency: Monthly (to reflect pre-payment accrual period)


    2. Enter Payment Schedule Lines
    • Define annual payments starting from 01-Feb-2026:
      • 01-Feb-2026: 32,366
      • 01-Feb-2027: 29,460
      • 01-Feb-2028: 29,460
      • 01-Feb-2029: 31,078
      • 01-Feb-2030: 30,933
      • 01-Feb-2031: 30,933
    • Payment Frequency: Annual


    3. Manual PV Calculation
    • Enter the manually calculated PV into the lease record in D365
    Summary: Entering Manually Calculated PV in D365
    1. Open Lease Record
           Go to Asset Leasing > Lease Summary and select or create the lease.
    2. Set Lease Details
           Define lease start date, term, payment frequency, and discount rate.
    3. Enter Payment Schedule
          Input each payment manually under the Lease Payment Schedule tab.

     
    1. Override PV Value
           In the Payment Schedule tab, edit and enter your manually calculated PV.
    2. Validate ROU Asset
           Ensure the ROU asset value matches the PV unless adjustments are needed.
    3. Post Initial Recognition
           Generate and post the journal to record the lease liability and ROU asset.
    4. Review Amortization Schedule
           Confirm interest, liability reduction, and depreciation align with your manual model.
    4. Generate Lease Liability Schedule
    • Go to Lease Calculation > Generate Schedule
    • Review the amortization and liability schedule
    • Confirm that the system-generated values align with your manual PV calculation
    5. Post Initial Recognition
    • Navigate to Lease Journals > Initial Recognition
    • Post the journal entry:
    • Debit: Lease Clearing or placeholder account
    • Credit: Lease Liability
    If this helped, please mark it as "Verified" for others facing the same issue.
    Keep in mind that it is possible to mark more than one answer as verified.
  • Suggested answer
    Abhilash Warrier Profile Picture
    5,402 Super User 2025 Season 2 on at
    Appreciate, if you could share complete details to be updated in the Lease Summary to test it properly. Thank You.
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    Cyrille Nembot Profile Picture
    149 on at

    The most effective and mathematically sound solution is to calculate a new, "implicit" interest rate that, when applied with annual compounding for the entire lease, results in the same present value (PV) as if you had used monthly compounding during the initial period.

    This
    approach satisfies the system's requirement for a single compounding
    period while achieving the correct financial result. The process
    involves two key steps outside of D365, which are then implemented
    within the system.

    Step 1: Calculate the Correct Present Value (PV) Using Monthly Compounding

    First,
    you need to calculate the "true" present value of the lease as of the
    commencement date (Jan 24, 2025) using a monthly compounding period for
    the first 12.5 months.

    1. Identify the knowns:

      • Payment Stream: The future cash flows you provided.

      • Initial Period: 24th Jan 2025 to 1st Feb 2026 (This is ~12.23 months
        from commencement to the first payment. For precision, you must use
        exact days. D365 will do this, but for your external calc, you can use
        months or exact days).

      • Compounding: Monthly during this initial period.

      • Discount Rate: You need the original incremental borrowing rate (IBR) or implicit rate. Let's assume it's 5% for this example. (You must use your actual rate.)

    2. Perform the calculation in Excel or a financial calculator:

      • The idea is to discount the first payment (Feb '26) back to the commencement date (Jan '25) using a monthly period.

      • The formula for the present value of a single sum is: PV = FV / (1 + i/n)^(n*t)

        • FV = Future Value (the payment amount)

        • i = annual interest rate (e.g., 5%)

        • n = compounding periods per year (12 for monthly)

        • t = time in years

      • Calculate the PV of the first payment:

        • Time from Commencement (Jan 24, 25) to First Payment (Feb 1, 26) = 373 days / 365 = ~1.0219 years.

        • PV_P1 = 32,366 / (1 + 0.05/12)^(12 * 1.0219)

      • Calculate the PV of the remaining payments (which are annual, starting in Feb '27), but you must first discount them all back to February 1, 2026, and then discount that sum back to the commencement date using the monthly method.

    This is complex to do manually. It's highly recommended to use Excel's XNPV function or a specialized financial calculator which can handle exact days and varying compounding periods.

    The result of this step is the "true" Present Value of the lease, which we'll call PV_correct.

    Step 2: Calculate a New "Implicit" Annual Rate

    Now, you have the "true" value of the lease (PV_correct). You now need to find an interest rate that, when applied with annual compounding from the commencement date, discounts the exact same payment stream to match PV_correct.

    1. Set up the equation in Excel:

      • Use the XIRR function or the RATE function alongside NPV.

      • Your cash flow series will be:

        • Date: 2025-01-24 | Cash Flow: +PV_correct (this is an inflow, representing the value of the asset)

        • Date: 2026-02-01 | Cash Flow: -32,366

        • Date: 2027-02-01 | Cash Flow: -29,460

        • ... and so on for all payments.

    2. Calculate the rate:

      • The XIRR function will return an annualized rate. This is your new "implicit" interest rate. Let's call it R_annual.

      • This rate R_annual effectively "bakes in" the cost of the monthly compounding during the initial period.

    Step 3: Configure the Lease in D365 F&O

    Now, configure the lease in D365 using the results of your calculations:

    1. Lease Details:

      • Commencement Date: 24th Jan 2025

      • Payment Frequency: Annual (since all payments after the holiday are annual).

      • Compounding Period: Annual (you are now using the new rate R_annual designed for annual compounding).

      • Annuity Type: Annuity due (payments at the beginning of the period).

    2. Lease Payments:

      • Create a payment schedule exactly as provided:

        • 01-Feb-2026: $32,366

        • 01-Feb-2027: $29,460

        • ...etc.

    3. Discount Rate / IBR:

      • This is the crucial part. On the lease book (e.g., the IFRS book), do not use the original 5% rate.

      • Instead, enter the new "implicit" rate (R_annual) you calculated in Step 2.

    4. Initial Direct Costs: If there are any, add them to the payment schedule as a negative amount on the commencement date.

    By using the newly calculated R_annual,
    you are tricking the system. The system uses annual compounding with
    this new rate. The mathematical result of this calculation will be a
    present value that exactly equals your PV_correct from Step
    1. Therefore, the right-of-use asset and lease liability will be
    recorded at the correct value, and the interest expense recognized over
    the lease term will be accurate, effectively mimicking the desired
    monthly-to-annual compounding shift.

  • RJ-14081220-0 Profile Picture
    162 on at
    Thanks a lot for your reply. the client I am dealing with has large volume of lease records.  Will this be feasible- that first we do excel work and afterwards we look into F&O.
  • RJ-14081220-0 Profile Picture
    162 on at
    Abhilash, thanks for your reply.
    Just one more doubt- how can you override the System calculated PV.
    I do not see any edit option for adding present value.
     
     
     
  • Abhilash Warrier Profile Picture
    5,402 Super User 2025 Season 2 on at
    Hi RJ,
     
    Their is no Edit option, can you try to update the value in the "Present Value"
  • RJ-14081220-0 Profile Picture
    162 on at
     
    No system does not allow to input amount manually. And this is correct as well. As if user will enter PV value manually then there will be question on data integrity.
  • Suggested answer
    Abhilash Warrier Profile Picture
    5,402 Super User 2025 Season 2 on at
    Thank you for the feedback. I will try to replicate the scenario again and will highlight the field which can used for updating the values manually.  

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